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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • BonesB Bones

    @DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @pakman

    That is my worry about the Lomax/Newell selection.

    I would feel better with Laulala on the bench

    You wouldn't be worried about Laulala coming on and yet again giving away scrum penalties, despite the myth surrounding him being a rock at scrum time?

    Because after that scrum he'll then show you the amazing attacking skills of a prop from the 80s that's quantum leaped into the game. Then round it off by making a tackle while standing up straight.

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    @Bones

    Now you are just talking shit.

    I think he is a better scrummager than Newell at this stage of his career

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    • WingerW Winger

      Maybe this has already been posted

      But Foster is an idiot. Even if NZ win on Saturday he still is

      https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/all-blacks-on-claim-cam-roigard-involved-in-protocol-breach/ar-AA1i9RHb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=fa0c60431bcc4ff2b1425e0496b3ffb4&ei=11

      “What would make you think it was discipline?” said Foster when quizzed on whether Roigard had stepped out of line. “We just felt it was horses for courses for this particular game. We think Finlay has an edge defensively. I think there will be a lot of action around the ruck defensively. We have been delighted with Cam’s form and in a different type of game, it might have gone slightly differently. But this one here we have gone for that.

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      @Winger said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      “What would make you think it was discipline?” said Foster when quizzed on whether Roigard had stepped out of line.

      Journos listening to George LOL

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        I don't actually think not picking Roigard is that big a deal... untested under high stakes, and has been shown at times to have a shaky pass.

        The bigger crime is that Christie is playing, and that is a selection/preparation fuck up. Brad Weber just should be there, it is absolutely ludicrous that he isn't.

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          My expectations are low for this one. I think we can win if we play the right game. But I haven't seen us play that game for a whole 80 minutes during Foster's tenure

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          • D DaGrubster

            @Bones

            Now you are just talking shit.

            I think he is a better scrummager than Newell at this stage of his career

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            Bones
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            @DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @Bones

            Now you are just talking shit.

            I think he is a better scrummager than Newell at this stage of his career

            Maybe, marginally - I'd be happy for you to show me unequivocal proof though. So that would be how many less penalties and turnovers at scrum time Nepo gives, compared to the other options. Even better if you can convince me it balances out the shortcomings.

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              I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

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                canefan
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                @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                Hope is the killer

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                • F frugby

                  I don't actually think not picking Roigard is that big a deal... untested under high stakes, and has been shown at times to have a shaky pass.

                  The bigger crime is that Christie is playing, and that is a selection/preparation fuck up. Brad Weber just should be there, it is absolutely ludicrous that he isn't.

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                  Bovidae
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                  @frugby Weber's passing has always been inconsistent too so I wouldn't be using that as a reason to select him over Roigard. Experience, yes. I think Roigard is the better kicker as well, even over Smith and Christie.

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                    Hope is the killer

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                    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                    Hope is the killer

                    Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                    I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                    Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                      Hope is the killer

                      Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                      I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                      Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

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                      taniwharugby
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                      @nzzp haha yep, that would sum up his coaching career...we beat beat Ireland by 20 and lose to whoever next week, conceding a YC and RC in the process, having one player banned for the always fun 3rd/4th playoff match.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @nzzp haha yep, that would sum up his coaching career...we beat beat Ireland by 20 and lose to whoever next week, conceding a YC and RC in the process, having one player banned for the always fun 3rd/4th playoff match.

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                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @nzzp haha yep, that would sum up his coaching career...we beat beat Ireland by 20 and lose to whoever next week, conceding a YC and RC in the process, having one player banned for the always fun 3rd/4th playoff match.

                        No Roigard, no Telea, no Sami T, who is going to score all these tries?

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                          nostrildamus
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                          This is depressing https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300988477/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-vs-ireland-head-to-head-ratings-for-the-quarterfinal

                          I thought they massively underscored the Irish and inflated some of our players but even in the article they outscored us in forwards and backs!

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            @nzzp haha yep, that would sum up his coaching career...we beat beat Ireland by 20 and lose to whoever next week, conceding a YC and RC in the process, having one player banned for the always fun 3rd/4th playoff match.

                            No Roigard, no Telea, no Sami T, who is going to score all these tries?

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                            @nostrildamus WJ, LF, RI, CT...

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              This is depressing https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300988477/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-vs-ireland-head-to-head-ratings-for-the-quarterfinal

                              I thought they massively underscored the Irish and inflated some of our players but even in the article they outscored us in forwards and backs!

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                              @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              This is depressing https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300988477/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-vs-ireland-head-to-head-ratings-for-the-quarterfinal

                              I thought they massively underscored the Irish and inflated some of our players but even in the article they outscored us in forwards and backs!

                              I don’t know shit about scrummaging but I know damn sure Furlong is better than 6/10. Who writes this shit ?

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                                Hope is the killer

                                Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                                I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                                Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

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                                @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                                Hope is the killer

                                Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                                I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                                Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

                                I’m living in optimism that first 20 minutes at mt smart is the type of rugby they have been keeping in their back pocket for now .

                                But yeah , I know , I’m probably dreaming .

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                                  Stargazer
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                                  I love Aaron's passion. If the whole team has that passion, miracles can happen.

                                  https://twitter.com/skysportnz/status/1712644299311993027

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                                    Hope is the killer

                                    Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                                    I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                                    Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

                                    I’m living in optimism that first 20 minutes at mt smart is the type of rugby they have been keeping in their back pocket for now .

                                    But yeah , I know , I’m probably dreaming .

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    I can't wait for this game to be over and we can flush the dunny and move on. But if we manage to win I will have mixed feelings. The following week(s) will be like a slow painful death after being given a glimmer of hope from the doctor. Just plain cruel.

                                    Hope is the killer

                                    Dropping a semi to Arg or Wal would be apex Foster and reflect where the team's at.

                                    I'm living in optimism that BB has been looking after himself for the last 4 years to peak right now - kind of like Carter did back in '15. If he starts running hard and straight, he's a different player.

                                    Annnnd it's the hope that kills ya

                                    I’m living in optimism that first 20 minutes at mt smart is the type of rugby they have been keeping in their back pocket for now .

                                    But yeah , I know , I’m probably dreaming .

                                    Where the Boks played like crap and dropped everything that came their way?

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                                      So, heart says SMASH THESE WHINING MIC KHUNTS, head says we're going to get smoked. Either way, I don't think it will be close. I think it will be a blow out in the end.

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                                      • D DaGrubster

                                        @Bones

                                        Now you are just talking shit.

                                        I think he is a better scrummager than Newell at this stage of his career

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                                        @DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        @Bones

                                        Now you are just talking shit.

                                        I think he is a better scrummager than Newell at this stage of his career

                                        Agree, but the Irish bench LH isn’t exactly Ox Nché!

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                                          Have spoken to a few Irish guys and they are absolutely packing bricks about this game. Reminds me so much of the RWC monkey we had on our backs. No doubt the players will also be feeling that. Well except for their New Zealanders.

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