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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #2683

    Lets take a moment to pay tribute to this Irish team.

    What a side! You don’t win 17 games on the spin without being bloody good. They gave us a massive scare yesterday and could easily have one despite the heroics of Cane, Savea, Scott Barrett, Lomax. All of the All Blacks really.

    They must be one of the most organised teams I’ve ever seen. Not far off Australia under Macqueen or England 2003.

    They didn’t fade in terms of fitness. Their conditioning team had done an outstanding job.

    I can’t think of many teams from the British and Irish Isles who were so comfortable and confident with the ball in hand. Maybe the 1997 Lions?

    Their weaknesses turned out to be their lineout and not being willing to take risks under pressure. 36 phases at the end there but they never chanced their arm. Nothing like Nonu or Cruden outrageous offload in a near reverse situation in 2013.

    Mental skills saw the ABs through that one. Last night was very much part of Gilbert Enoka’s legacy.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @raznomore this post needs promoting to the front page... but I have technouselessness so @Duluth !!! ... ?

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      @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @raznomore this post needs promoting to the front page... but I have technouselessness so @Duluth !!! ... ?

      Yup, I’ll add that and a few others tomorrow

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      • Jailbreak7J Offline
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        Ok so it might be the drink, but right now I have a lot of love for Sam and the boys

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @raznomore Dude thanks for posting. Great to see blasts from the past.
          Where's Crucial?

          Having a beer with the Baron?

          I must've missed that.

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          @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @raznomore Dude thanks for posting. Great to see blasts from the past.
          Where's Crucial?

          Having a beer with the Baron?

          I must've missed that.

          Me too but explains absence

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          • KiwiMurphK Online
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            I heard a stat doing the rounds that Ireland haven't even held a lead at all during a quarter final since 1995.

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            • M Machpants

              @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              A bit more here of the incident between Ioane and Sexton.

              I won't lie, I think Rieko can be a bit of a dick, however since I was literally yelling 'fuck off back to Ireland you fluffybunnies Sexton and O'Mahoney', I think it's fair to say that I'm being a bit hypocritical.

              https://www.balls.ie/rugby/sexton-ioane-rugby-world-cup-574601

              Well the four more years was Gregan standing over an AB (Kelleher) and rubbing it in. And didn't get all whiny cockwomble about it. Took it as due

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              @Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              A bit more here of the incident between Ioane and Sexton.

              I won't lie, I think Rieko can be a bit of a dick, however since I was literally yelling 'fuck off back to Ireland you fluffybunnies Sexton and O'Mahoney', I think it's fair to say that I'm being a bit hypocritical.

              https://www.balls.ie/rugby/sexton-ioane-rugby-world-cup-574601

              Well the four more years was Gregan standing over an AB (Kelleher) and rubbing it in. And didn't get all whiny cockwomble about it. Took it as due

              I have zero fucking sympathy for the prick. He's been mouthing off and reffing refs for years. Fuck him. The fucking trash talk the likes of him and POM have been delivering in the pitch, they can suck à bah of dicks. Yeah I think RI is a bit of a dick but fuck it. Take your picks you mouth fluffybunnies.

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              • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                @Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                A bit more here of the incident between Ioane and Sexton.

                I won't lie, I think Rieko can be a bit of a dick, however since I was literally yelling 'fuck off back to Ireland you fluffybunnies Sexton and O'Mahoney', I think it's fair to say that I'm being a bit hypocritical.

                https://www.balls.ie/rugby/sexton-ioane-rugby-world-cup-574601

                Well the four more years was Gregan standing over an AB (Kelleher) and rubbing it in. And didn't get all whiny cockwomble about it. Took it as due

                I have zero fucking sympathy for the prick. He's been mouthing off and reffing refs for years. Fuck him. The fucking trash talk the likes of him and POM have been delivering in the pitch, they can suck à bah of dicks. Yeah I think RI is a bit of a dick but fuck it. Take your picks you mouth fluffybunnies.

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                @Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                bah of dick

                Disappointing

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                  The morning after the night before… what an amazing spectacle and atmosphere; up there with being at the RWC 2011 and 2015 finals. I felt strangely calm and almost reassured, as soon as the match kicked off. Quite a few thousand-yard stares from the stunned Irish supporters at the final whistle. Most were fairly complimentary in the post-match bars though a large number of younger guys were pretty damn salty, especially at Barnes.

                  I’m lucky enough to be back to Paris for the SF on Friday. Another hangover beckons

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    That's 100% on Frizzell. Ioane turns him in as he should, Shannon misses a straight shot

                    This game going with penalties at thr moment

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                    @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    That's 100% on Frizzell. Ioane turns him in as he should, Shannon misses a straight shot

                    This game going with penalties at thr moment

                    If that had been Michael Jones Bundee would have had to have been renamed Ribs.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @NTA I think the difference today was, when they went the short option, some.AB forward whacked them, hard

                      Unlike last time we played them, we covered the wrap, but also shut down the forward runners. I haven't seen the ABs hit like that on D for a while

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                      @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @NTA I think the difference today was, when they went the short option, some.AB forward whacked them, hard

                      Unlike last time we played them, we covered the wrap, but also shut down the forward runners. I haven't seen the ABs hit like that on D for a while

                      Our spacing on D during those final phases was superb. I haven't seen anything like it since the 2015 WC final. I say that in hindsight, because I was still bricking it at the time.

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                      • RapidoR Rapido

                        @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...

                        https://www.instagram.com/p/CyZNy5ShOQS/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

                        Unlike.

                        Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.

                        Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.

                        It's up to all of us to keep bagging them. Dare them to win to spite us!

                        Tbh, even the good/great AB teams struggled the following week after a standout knock-out match. Difference is, this is a shit AB team.

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                        @Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...

                        https://www.instagram.com/p/CyZNy5ShOQS/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

                        Unlike.

                        Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.

                        Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.

                        It's up to all of us to keep bagging them. Dare them to win to spite us!

                        Tbh, even the good/great AB teams struggled the following week after a standout knock-out match. Difference is, this is a shit AB team.

                        Let's not downplay the effort the Aggies had to put in to beat the Welsh - both teams coming off huge efforts and will have to get the mental part of it right.

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                            • menceyM mencey

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @mencey said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Cane and Jordie more deserving IMO

                              I really don't think any of them give a fuck, TBH. Least of all Cane.

                              Bollocks. Ardie was massive. The motor on the man is unbelievable. Cane steeped up but Ardie does this shit every time he plays.

                              Eh? I was making the point that neither Cane or Ardie would be worried too much about who got MoM.

                              yep sorry, bit to much to drink.

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                              @mencey said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              yep sorry, bit to much to drink.

                              Join the club....

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                I just watched a replay and I was still nervous at the end

                                I know what you mean. The 2011 final still gives me the heeby-jeebies.

                                But this one I've watched twice and i just have this feeling of calmness... dunno why ...

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                                @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                The 2011 final still gives me the heeby-jeebies.

                                Not me. Well, it did until I got rid of the sofa with the teeth marks last year.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @raznomore Dude thanks for posting. Great to see blasts from the past.
                                  Where's Crucial?

                                  Having a beer with the Baron?

                                  I must've missed that.

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                                  #2698

                                  @antipodean

                                  Yeah. Miss @Crucial. Posted stuff which made you think - even if yoy disagreed with it.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Lets take a moment to pay tribute to this Irish team.

                                    What a side! You don’t win 17 games on the spin without being bloody good. They gave us a massive scare yesterday and could easily have one despite the heroics of Cane, Savea, Scott Barrett, Lomax. All of the All Blacks really.

                                    They must be one of the most organised teams I’ve ever seen. Not far off Australia under Macqueen or England 2003.

                                    They didn’t fade in terms of fitness. Their conditioning team had done an outstanding job.

                                    I can’t think of many teams from the British and Irish Isles who were so comfortable and confident with the ball in hand. Maybe the 1997 Lions?

                                    Their weaknesses turned out to be their lineout and not being willing to take risks under pressure. 36 phases at the end there but they never chanced their arm. Nothing like Nonu or Cruden outrageous offload in a near reverse situation in 2013.

                                    Mental skills saw the ABs through that one. Last night was very much part of Gilbert Enoka’s legacy.

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                                    @sparky said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    Lets take a moment to pay tribute to this Irish team.

                                    What a side! You don’t win 17 games on the spin without being bloody good. They gave us a massive scare yesterday and could easily have one despite the heroics of Cane, Savea, Scott Barrett, Lomax. All of the All Blacks really.

                                    They must be one of the most organised teams I’ve ever seen. Not far off Australia under Macqueen or England 2003.

                                    They did fade in terms of fitness. Their conditioning team had done an outstanding job.

                                    I can’t think of many teams from the British and Irish Isles who were so comfortable and confident with the ball in hand. Maybe the 1997 Lions?

                                    Their weaknesses turned out to be their lineout and not being willing to take risks under pressure. 36 phases at the end there but they never chanced their arm. Nothing like Nonu or Cruden outrageous offload in a near reverse situation in 2013.

                                    Mental skills saw the ABs through that one. Last night was very much part of Gilbert Enoka’s legacy.

                                    yep well said that man.

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                                      Even Ritchie didn’t want the ginger on.

                                      “I’m so happy with the way our leaders led, and also Foz [head coach Ian Foster] and his team and some of their decisions to keep Nuggy [Aaron Smith] on”

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300989643/rugby-world-cup-doubleduty-doubleeffort-puts-richie-mounga-all-black-into-semifinals

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                                        Even Ritchie didn’t want the ginger on.

                                        “I’m so happy with the way our leaders led, and also Foz [head coach Ian Foster] and his team and some of their decisions to keep Nuggy [Aaron Smith] on”

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300989643/rugby-world-cup-doubleduty-doubleeffort-puts-richie-mounga-all-black-into-semifinals

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                                        @bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Even Ritchie didn’t want the ginger on.

                                        “I’m so happy with the way our leaders led, and also Foz [head coach Ian Foster] and his team and some of their decisions to keep Nuggy [Aaron Smith] on”

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300989643/rugby-world-cup-doubleduty-doubleeffort-puts-richie-mounga-all-black-into-semifinals

                                        Not getting ahead of himself either:

                                        “We played an 80-minute game with two yellow cards. That speaks volumes for the team,” added the gifted No 10. “The next challenge is how consistent can we be? Can we put in back-to-back performances? There’s fire in everyone’s belly in wanting to fulfil the potential of this team. If we do that the outcome is to win the World Cup, and that’s what we want.”

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                                        • SmutsS Smuts

                                          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Been out all day. Saw the last 5 minutes this morning so nice to get time this afternoon to get a look at the rest.

                                          ABs first attacking raid going 29 phases without incident is pretty good.

                                          Ireland's lineout and ruck are nervy.

                                          I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me

                                          Look at porter, he knew exactly what he'd done, didn't even give it the regulation prop head shake.

                                          I’ve been banging on about their props cheating since the AB series. Welsh URC fans have been doing it even longer.

                                          And from ground level it was plain as day - every fucking scrum Porter steps out and hinges to avoid the contest.

                                          By the middle of the second half even the Irish around me were wailing - fuck me he’s done it again.

                                          Barnes had a pretty good shift. But it’s still baffling how it took so long for a ref to punish the Irish scrum. Because it isn’t subtle. Any more than their ruck work and Barnes largely let that go. So it was plenty ironic when the Irish were moaning that he swallowed his whistle in that final stretch.

                                          As if the ABs hadn’t been on the other side of Barnes just letting the teams duke it out.

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                                          @Smuts said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Been out all day. Saw the last 5 minutes this morning so nice to get time this afternoon to get a look at the rest.

                                          ABs first attacking raid going 29 phases without incident is pretty good.

                                          Ireland's lineout and ruck are nervy.

                                          I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me

                                          Look at porter, he knew exactly what he'd done, didn't even give it the regulation prop head shake.

                                          I’ve been banging on about their props cheating since the AB series. Welsh URC fans have been doing it even longer.

                                          And from ground level it was plain as day - every fucking scrum Porter steps out and hinges to avoid the contest.

                                          By the middle of the second half even the Irish around me were wailing - fuck me he’s done it again.

                                          Barnes had a pretty good shift. But it’s still baffling how it took so long for a ref to punish the Irish scrum. Because it isn’t subtle. Any more than their ruck work and Barnes largely let that go. So it was plenty ironic when the Irish were moaning that he swallowed his whistle in that final stretch.

                                          As if the ABs hadn’t been on the other side of Barnes just letting the teams duke it out.

                                          That final set of Irish attacking phases demonstrated that we'd clearly put some work during the week into Barnes' reffing - well behind the offside line, getting into the ruck without getting off our feet and clearly in the way of the ball, and then going for it when the Irish ball runners were clearly disconnected from their cleaners - really amazing stuff reminiscent of the defensive effort in the 2011 final

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