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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

    If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

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      @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

      I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

      Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

      if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

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      @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

      I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

      Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

      if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

      If your reserve prop gets injured, aren't you allowed to bring your starter back without any penalty?

      If so -you could play Nepo for 40 minutes + 10 - then if Tyrel craps out after 10 minutes you could bring Nepo (actually Ofa - since he's not a statue) back for the last 20, having had a 10 minute rest.

      Can't fucking remember what the rules are. @Stargazer ???

      Ryan wantewd Williams to be a tighthead at the Crusaders and he's only been switched due to injuries. He's better round the track than Newell IMO.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Got a feeling on the bench they will go for Christie over Roigard as well , experience needed

        you may be right, but that would be an enormous mistake

        i know i am all about support this week, but if the bench is Blackadder, Christie, Havili and LF i reserve the right of a 30 minute melt down

        The Mako have transcended the NPC! 🙂

        are they all yours? is this your fault?

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        @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Got a feeling on the bench they will go for Christie over Roigard as well , experience needed

        you may be right, but that would be an enormous mistake

        i know i am all about support this week, but if the bench is Blackadder, Christie, Havili and LF i reserve the right of a 30 minute melt down

        The Mako have transcended the NPC! 🙂

        are they all yours? is this your fault?

        They are, you BoP fucker!

        As are Lomax, Frizell and Jordan.

        Don't worry -we'll win it for you if Fozzie picks enough of us! 🙂

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          De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            Got a feeling on the bench they will go for Christie over Roigard as well , experience needed

            you may be right, but that would be an enormous mistake

            i know i am all about support this week, but if the bench is Blackadder, Christie, Havili and LF i reserve the right of a 30 minute melt down

            The Mako have transcended the NPC! 🙂

            are they all yours? is this your fault?

            They are, you BoP fucker!

            As are Lomax, Frizell and Jordan.

            Don't worry -we'll win it for you if Fozzie picks enough of us! 🙂

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            @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            They are, you BoP fucker!

            as an aside, looking at that BOP team sheet, we're as cheque book as you these days, and thus i care so very little

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

              If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

              If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

              Everyone keeps expecting Foster to not sub Smith in big games if they are in the balance, and he keeps subbing him. He doesn't pull people if they have shockers. He doesn't sub the worst performing loosie, or the worst performing outside back. His subs are pretty much by rote.

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                They have to have impact and unpredictability off the bench, if BB at 15 (despite the stats, despite their eyes, and I prefer DM at 10 actually) then DM on the bench along with Roigard. Gotta bully the Irish forwards and test their lineout. Sam W on at end to steady the ship. Shame they didn't keep Finau btw I thought he might add a bit of unpredictable danger. Just know Foster will pick Cane and Shannon with Ardie and have Paps ride the pine. I don't think they will do anything really risky, for them the height of risk would be putting LF on the bench but they'll probably keep ALB. Still suspect Foster is always prone to pick the least riskiest option but then tell them to express themselves on the field.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

                  I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

                  Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

                  if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

                  If your reserve prop gets injured, aren't you allowed to bring your starter back without any penalty?

                  If so -you could play Nepo for 40 minutes + 10 - then if Tyrel craps out after 10 minutes you could bring Nepo (actually Ofa - since he's not a statue) back for the last 20, having had a 10 minute rest.

                  Can't fucking remember what the rules are. @Stargazer ???

                  Ryan wantewd Williams to be a tighthead at the Crusaders and he's only been switched due to injuries. He's better round the track than Newell IMO.

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                  @Chris-B I don't know the rules either, but you do see a lot of replaced props returning to the park. And resting those fat fuckers has to be a huge advantage.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    They are, you BoP fucker!

                    as an aside, looking at that BOP team sheet, we're as cheque book as you these days, and thus i care so very little

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                    @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    They are, you BoP fucker!

                    as an aside, looking at that BOP team sheet, we're as cheque book as you these days, and thus i care so very little

                    As I've repeatedly made the point - when we won the NPC we were not a chequebook team - Keane and Leon were just excellent selectors and team builders.

                    However, I saw a report in recent times, that we've become relatively wealthy compared to the rest of you fuckwits - who can't organize a piss-up in a brewery - and we're using this wealth to dominate the ABs and direct things toward success.

                    To date, we've just been hindered by the swamp Islanders who keep appointing their fucking coaches.

                    I hope our fabulous players can transcend this fuckery! 🙂

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                      @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

                      If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

                      Everyone keeps expecting Foster to not sub Smith in big games if they are in the balance, and he keeps subbing him. He doesn't pull people if they have shockers. He doesn't sub the worst performing loosie, or the worst performing outside back. His subs are pretty much by rote.

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                      @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

                      If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

                      Everyone keeps expecting Foster to not sub Smith in big games if they are in the balance, and he keeps subbing him. He doesn't pull people if they have shockers. He doesn't sub the worst performing loosie, or the worst performing outside back. His subs are pretty much by rote.

                      Aaron does fade these days - you can't play him for 80 minutes. Several game this year where it's been obvious he's fading.

                      Pretty sure Roigard will be on the bench. Seems pretty obvious he's the best option.

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                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Christies experience, at what, playing headless aimless rugby?

                        If the game is in the balance at 50/60mins, I dont expect he will get gametime anyway.

                        Everyone keeps expecting Foster to not sub Smith in big games if they are in the balance, and he keeps subbing him. He doesn't pull people if they have shockers. He doesn't sub the worst performing loosie, or the worst performing outside back. His subs are pretty much by rote.

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                        @reprobate fair call, i guess the other issue is, you also need your bench player to be able to play extended minutes too in case something happens, and it scares me thinking Christie is that guy

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

                          I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

                          Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

                          if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

                          If your reserve prop gets injured, aren't you allowed to bring your starter back without any penalty?

                          If so -you could play Nepo for 40 minutes + 10 - then if Tyrel craps out after 10 minutes you could bring Nepo (actually Ofa - since he's not a statue) back for the last 20, having had a 10 minute rest.

                          Can't fucking remember what the rules are. @Stargazer ???

                          Ryan wantewd Williams to be a tighthead at the Crusaders and he's only been switched due to injuries. He's better round the track than Newell IMO.

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                          @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @mariner4life Yeah - I'd be inclined pick Williams ahead of Newell on the tighthead side, but I can't see it happening.

                          I'm prepared to trust that Ryan and Feek know what they're doing.

                          Really hope Lomax can play!!!!!!!! He's our best prop.

                          if he's "fit" then you have to start him. He's our best prop, but also if he breaks it's better if he's not already been subbed on.

                          If your reserve prop gets injured, aren't you allowed to bring your starter back without any penalty?

                          If so -you could play Nepo for 40 minutes + 10 - then if Tyrel craps out after 10 minutes you could bring Nepo (actually Ofa - since he's not a statue) back for the last 20, having had a 10 minute rest.

                          Can't fucking remember what the rules are. @Stargazer ???

                          Ryan wantewd Williams to be a tighthead at the Crusaders and he's only been switched due to injuries. He's better round the track than Newell IMO.

                          Law 3 allows what you're suggesting (3.19 and 3.20 are not relevant here):

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                            I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

                              Such a shame Havili is injured too.

                              George Bridge might be in France on standby though ?

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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                                @Crazy-Horse then he plays the game if his life scoring a 60m solo try to win it!

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                                  De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

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                                  @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

                                  Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

                                    There are just some things you shouldn't say.

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                                      @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

                                      Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

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                                      @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

                                      Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

                                      I read a former loosehead prop saying De Groot was our most destructive loosehead in quite some time, so if he knows what he is talking about, that'll do me.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        I almost want Christie to be on the bench. The meltdown will make great reading.

                                        There will only be a meltdown if the ABs lose, draw, or win.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          De Groot worries me big time ,not sure if he is as great as sum think , scrum time he's hit and miss , around the park ok,

                                          Literally our best scrummaging loosehead, so if you think he is fine round the park, he is your man.

                                          I read a former loosehead prop saying De Groot was our most destructive loosehead in quite some time, so if he knows what he is talking about, that'll do me.

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                                          @nostrildamus we need OG Redbeard to make a guest appearance to answer all things prop related 🙂

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