RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@mooshld said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The wait on this one is killing me. I really really want us to win this. Not for Fozzies legacy or because I think we can go all the way. I think that would be a long shot.
I just find the average Irish rugby supporter to be totally unbearable. I first noticed it with their holier than thou approach to goal kicking. Ohh look at us we stay silent everyone else boos, so fucking what. You think the kickers give a shit? Its not good sportsmanship its just another type of intimidation. Just like you try and scream over the line out call at every fucking throw in.
I think it all really got out of hand around the time of the "He could have died" cleanout. It quickly became a spare tackle, even though there was no ball. Then it was intentional, then we should apologise.
After that any match we beat them in was because the Ref, or we cheated, or we were too physical or Jonny was targeted or the haka. Then when they started beating us, its not like the fans humbled in their success. No, now they didn't beat us they smashed us! Any infringement against us had to be a red, their infringements were again due to bad Refs or just different because reasons! See soak tackle, a phrase that has only been used once in all the international rugby I have ever watched. They are the only set of fans that think they need to "counter the haka" like its some sort of weapon, its a cultural tradition. If its such a problem just ask we won't do it.
But for me, the straw that broke the camels back, was the shitty mean girls sledging that their fans think is sooooo funny. "You're just a shit Richie McCaw" hahahah good one. That's the kind of shit that should wake you up in the middle of the night just to cringe at the mere thought of.
If we do win, they will be going over the footage frame by frame to see where they were cheated, of that I have no doubt. But for once I couldn't want for anything more.
This is our final, anything after this is a bonus I just hope the coaches are lighting a proper fucking fire in the players. I want to see us come out and show a level of physicality we normally reserve for South Africa right from the first whistle.
2 more days hurry the fuck up!!!!!
I think someone is having a bad day.
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
NZ fans? Have a mind full of a ton of sex? Must be married NZ fans...
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@Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate
So the Christie v Roigard debate was everyone on TSF favours Roigard, including Christies mum and the only one that backs Christie is Fozzie?
And the only possible upside is that it has thrown Irish management into a spin because they didn't a actually believe Fozzie could be that stupid?
At least that's my summary of those posts...
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate
So the Christie v Roigard debate was everyone on TSF favours Roigard, including Christies mum and the only one that backs Christie is Fozzie?
And the only possible upside is that it has thrown Irish management into a spin because they didn't a actually believe Fozzie could be that stupid?
At least that's my summary of those posts...
@PecoTrain difficult to plan for unknown unknowns
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@Derm-McCrum I think @mooshld is married to an Irish lass. Maybe he’s been getting some of that world famous craic from the in-laws?
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum I think @mooshld is married to an Irish lass. Maybe he’s been getting some of that world famous craic from the in-laws?
Nah - proper craic is an everyone thing, not just one party.
Some people like to file their obnoxious behaviour or attitudes under 'I was just having the craic' or 'I was only joking' - invariably they're not really, in my experience. They just like being mean-spirited or cruel but are too cowardly to admit it.
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum I think @mooshld is married to an Irish lass. Maybe he’s been getting some of that world famous craic from the in-laws?
Nah - proper craic is an everyone thing, not just one party.
Some people like to file their obnoxious behaviour or attitudes under 'I was just having the craic' or 'I was only joking' - invariably they're not really, in my experience. They just like being mean-spirited or cruel but are too cowardly to admit it.
@Derm-McCrum I am not a coward
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
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If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.
Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.
If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....
My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
Again. Many apologies.@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
and:
If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.
Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.
If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....
My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
Again. Many apologies.Apology accepted with grace.
And for the record I called for Foster to go after Ireland III as he clearly wasn't the coach able to turn things around and wanted either Schmidt, Robertson - or both - to take over. Still don't think he was the man, but we are where we are.
You can post on the state of NZ rugby, say not all the problems in NZ rugby are down to one man, give a view on why Foster and co might be thinking or doing something, say players need to take some responsibility and or say Ryan and co need to get their act together after the utterly crap served up by the forwards at Twickenham. And that's supporting Foster or being a Foster apologist. Weird.
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
and:
If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.
Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.
If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....
My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
Again. Many apologies.Apology accepted with grace.
And for the record I called for Foster to go after Ireland III as he clearly wasn't the coach able to turn things around and wanted either Schmidt, Robertson - or both - to take over. Still don't think he was the man, but we are where we are.
You can post on the state of NZ rugby, say not all the problems in NZ rugby are down to one man, give a view on why Foster and co might be thinking or doing something, say players need to take some responsibility and or say Ryan and co need to get their act together after the utterly crap served up by the forwards at Twickenham. And that's supporting Foster or being a Foster apologist. Weird.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
and:
If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.
Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.
If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....
My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
Again. Many apologies.Apology accepted with grace.
And for the record I called for Foster to go after Ireland III as he clearly wasn't the coach able to turn things around and wanted either Schmidt, Robertson - or both - to take over. Still don't think he was the man, but we are where we are.
You can post on the state of NZ rugby, say not all the problems in NZ rugby are down to one man, give a view on why Foster and co might be thinking or doing something, say players need to take some responsibility and or say Ryan and co need to get their act together after the utterly crap served up by the forwards at Twickenham. And that's supporting Foster or being a Foster apologist. Weird.
Oh FFS stop making excuses for your boyfriend Fozzie
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The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.
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@Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate
Less contrarian, more cautious optimist.
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So the assumptions are:
- Roigard not injured
- Telea is injured forcing a change
- Cane gets to prove hes not a shit Ritchie McCaw
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fozzie's Funeral
And Labour taking down campaign signs because there's no chance of retaining power following an All Blacks quarter final exit?
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Good that Lomax is fit, Bad that Telea isn't.
Happy with Leicester. Pissed off with Christie - bad choice.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
and:
If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.
Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.
If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....
My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
Again. Many apologies.Apology accepted with grace.
And for the record I called for Foster to go after Ireland III as he clearly wasn't the coach able to turn things around and wanted either Schmidt, Robertson - or both - to take over. Still don't think he was the man, but we are where we are.
You can post on the state of NZ rugby, say not all the problems in NZ rugby are down to one man, give a view on why Foster and co might be thinking or doing something, say players need to take some responsibility and or say Ryan and co need to get their act together after the utterly crap served up by the forwards at Twickenham. And that's supporting Foster or being a Foster apologist. Weird.
Oh FFS stop making excuses for your boyfriend Fozzie
QED
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The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.
Well, someone's rolled the dice, haven't they?
