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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • S stodders

    @Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate 😊

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank don’t think @Victor-Meldrew is a Foster apologist. More a contrarian. Which is good for debate 😊

    Less contrarian, more cautious optimist.

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      @ACT-Crusader

      So the assumptions are:

      • Roigard not injured
      • Telea is injured forcing a change
      • Cane gets to prove hes not a shit Ritchie McCaw
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        Fozzie's Funeral

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          Fozzie's Funeral

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          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Fozzie's Funeral

          And Labour taking down campaign signs because there's no chance of retaining power following an All Blacks quarter final exit?

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            @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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            Good that Lomax is fit, Bad that Telea isn't.

            Happy with Leicester. Pissed off with Christie - bad choice.

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            • juniorJ junior

              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Frank

              What I actually wrote and you chose to omit.

              There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

              and:

              If I give Christie a 5/10 in a tight, must-win Test (probably really generous based on recent form), what rating would you give Roigard? The answer is you can't because he hasn't. That's an unknown. Which is a risk.

              Does Roigard's skill-set, recent experience & performances merit taking that risk? Absolutely, and that's why I think he should be picked.

              If you think that's somehow preferring or defending Christie over Roigard then clearly comprehension isn't your strong point....

              My Bad. It was the 1000 or so posts you have written defending Foster that gave me the wrong impression.
              Again. Many apologies.

              Apology accepted with grace.

              And for the record I called for Foster to go after Ireland III as he clearly wasn't the coach able to turn things around and wanted either Schmidt, Robertson - or both - to take over. Still don't think he was the man, but we are where we are.

              You can post on the state of NZ rugby, say not all the problems in NZ rugby are down to one man, give a view on why Foster and co might be thinking or doing something, say players need to take some responsibility and or say Ryan and co need to get their act together after the utterly crap served up by the forwards at Twickenham. And that's supporting Foster or being a Foster apologist. Weird.

              Oh FFS stop making excuses for your boyfriend Fozzie

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              @junior

              QED 🙂

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                The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.

                Well, someone's rolled the dice, haven't they?

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                  Retallick plays 80, and Scott Barrett shifts to six?

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                    Retallick plays 80, and Scott Barrett shifts to six?

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                    @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Retallick plays 80, and Scott Barrett shifts to six?

                    Whitelock to replace Frizzel
                    Papali’i to replace Cane

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.

                      Well, someone's rolled the dice, haven't they?

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                      @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

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                        @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Retallick plays 80, and Scott Barrett shifts to six?

                        Whitelock to replace Frizzel
                        Papali’i to replace Cane

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Retallick plays 80, and Scott Barrett shifts to six?

                        Whitelock to replace Frizzel
                        Papali’i to replace Cane

                        There's flexibility there to mix and match too

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.

                          Well, someone's rolled the dice, haven't they?

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          The two young props on the bench. Buckle up fellas.

                          Well, someone's rolled the dice, haven't they?

                          Never predicted that, but it's great. But no Ian, that doesn't mean you can select the worst halfback I can recall in fucking years.

                          Makes me wonder if Telea is available for selection.

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                            I’m surprised Lualala didn’t get on the bench before Fletcher.

                            Very good side. No Roigard is a WTF moment but Leicester is a good replacement for Talea.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

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                              @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

                              Think he has been really average this year tbh. Second season syndrome. Roigard though is really disappointing. Think LF will be targeted with the kicks. But he could be a real threat close to the line.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

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                                @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

                                Ryan's clearly happy with that or thinks Ofa/Lualala aren't up to it. Is he injured?

                                Whole thing's a strange mix of caution and risk.

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                                  @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

                                  Think he has been really average this year tbh. Second season syndrome. Roigard though is really disappointing. Think LF will be targeted with the kicks. But he could be a real threat close to the line.

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Taukei'aho

                                  Can understand Taukei'aho. Not Roigard. If you're taking a risk in the front row, why not a smaller risk at 9?

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                                    I've got a bad feeling Leicester's lack of pace is going to be seriously exploited but I prefer him there to Clarke.

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                                      Do we know Telea is injured? I now wouldn't be surprised if he isn't.

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                                        I’m actually impressed that a lot of the leaked teams were pretty much spot on.
                                        Christy over Roigard is insane. Roigard is a match winner, Christie is just a placeholder.
                                        Taking Clark was pointless, but we all knew that.

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                                          @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew definitely taking a big risk. Disappointed with no Taukei'aho.

                                          Think he has been really average this year tbh. Second season syndrome. Roigard though is really disappointing. Think LF will be targeted with the kicks. But he could be a real threat close to the line.

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                                          @Billy-Tell said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Think he has been really average this year tbh. Second season syndrome

                                          Pretty hard to be anything more than average when you're the kind of player that gets better with consistent game time and all you get is a few minutes here and there. Must be really on the nose when you get ignored last year so that a player can take 5 games to get from shithouse to average.

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