RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina
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It's rugby, the entire game is subjective, that's why you see what you want to see. And why endless whinging YouTube videos are easy to make
And why refs aren't as bad as some make out, they are just under more of a microscope than ever thanks to the eye in the sky reviewing every decision or non-decision, and injecting their own opinion.
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@MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"
Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
Checks notes
3 triesI thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.
Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.
I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out
(If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)
Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.
Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !
Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.
@The-Irishman said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"
Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
Checks notes
3 triesI thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.
Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.
I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out
(If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)
Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.
Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !
Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.
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Spare a thought for us AB fans who are also Sader fans. We get it from all angles - our teams are always favoured by the refs. I know right, poor us.
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This games went as well as I hoped. The ABs were good enough to get the job done without spending too much emotional or physical energy.
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@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo Argentina to score 31?
Damn you!
But seriously, I have us WINNING by 30 tomorrow. All this talk of overconfidence in the team is nonsense. They’ll have prepared well, they know what’s ahead.
I’m going with 42-10
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo Argentina to score 31?
Damn you!
But seriously, I have us WINNING by 30 tomorrow. All this talk of overconfidence in the team is nonsense. They’ll have prepared well, they know what’s ahead.
I’m going with 42-10
Well done.. not far off
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@MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"
Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
Checks notes
3 triesI thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.
Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.
I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out
(If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)
Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.
Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !
Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.
@The-Irishman said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"
Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
Checks notes
3 triesI thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.
Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.
I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out
(If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)
Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.
Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !
Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.
I don't see the Irish fans or media lamenting the fact that Barnes basically handed them the chance to beat us and the team still couldn't get over the line
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@frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Does Foster break dance if we win?
I think he might have a heart attack if he tries.
@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Does Foster break dance if we win?
I think he might have a heart attack if he tries.
What would happen to Jase Ryan?
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A team wins by almost 40 points (could easily have been 50) and apparently the ref was a factor? Retarded doesn't do that justice.
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Will be interesting who gets to ref the final. I’m guessing both England or Sth Africa won’t advocate for Gardner, especially his attempts to not let the game slow down. Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”. Unfortunately I think the ref will play a big part in final in dictating the speed of the game rather than calls. Will either be Gardner or French guy I would imagine
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Will be interesting who gets to ref the final. I’m guessing both England or Sth Africa won’t advocate for Gardner, especially his attempts to not let the game slow down. Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”. Unfortunately I think the ref will play a big part in final in dictating the speed of the game rather than calls. Will either be Gardner or French guy I would imagine
@98blueandgold said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”.
Should have penalised them when he had to keep asking.
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Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.
@LagerLout said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.
What the fuck is the Silver Lake deal about if we're facing a player exodus?
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Every Irish journalist complaining about the uncompetitive blow out would be furiously wanking over Ireland if they scored seven tries to nil.
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Will be interesting who gets to ref the final. I’m guessing both England or Sth Africa won’t advocate for Gardner, especially his attempts to not let the game slow down. Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”. Unfortunately I think the ref will play a big part in final in dictating the speed of the game rather than calls. Will either be Gardner or French guy I would imagine
@98blueandgold wasn't that the long stoppage in the 1st half, for a boot? Wonder if it was the same player.
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"This wasn't how it was supposed to beeee" they wailed
"It was our time!" They cried
"Deseeeeerved" they sobbed
Delicious salty tears making the inevitable NZ v SA final even sweeter. Salted caramel if you will.
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
"This wasn't how it was supposed to beeee" they wailed
"It was our time!" They cried
"Deseeeeerved" they sobbed
Delicious salty tears making the inevitable NZ v SA final even sweeter. Salted caramel if you will.
Lost count of how many times I heard the Irish sya they deserved more. Fuck them.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Mounga denies Jordan a record
Yep that was bad. Fucking shame
@mencey said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Mounga denies Jordan a record
Yep that was bad. Fucking shame
I think he was gassed. It was definitely on. Had that been in min 32, he scores. But he didn't. And that was shit.
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Will be interesting who gets to ref the final. I’m guessing both England or Sth Africa won’t advocate for Gardner, especially his attempts to not let the game slow down. Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”. Unfortunately I think the ref will play a big part in final in dictating the speed of the game rather than calls. Will either be Gardner or French guy I would imagine
@98blueandgold said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Will be interesting who gets to ref the final. I’m guessing both England or Sth Africa won’t advocate for Gardner, especially his attempts to not let the game slow down. Loved his interaction at the end when he told the prop to get up as the scrum was being formed “you can’t run over here and take you boot off”. Unfortunately I think the ref will play a big part in final in dictating the speed of the game rather than calls. Will either be Gardner or French guy I would imagine
Gardner was tres fucking merde. Didn’t matter in the end, but not his best outing.
Exits were awful from the ABs and their fringe defence was not great.
Jordan & Frizzel were pretty fucking good
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@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo Argentina to score 31?
Damn you!
But seriously, I have us WINNING by 30 tomorrow. All this talk of overconfidence in the team is nonsense. They’ll have prepared well, they know what’s ahead.
I’m going with 42-10
Well done.. not far off
@Duluth said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo Argentina to score 31?
Damn you!
But seriously, I have us WINNING by 30 tomorrow. All this talk of overconfidence in the team is nonsense. They’ll have prepared well, they know what’s ahead.
I’m going with 42-10
Well done.. not far off
Ha!
I think that other drunken prediction I posted during pool play might be slowly coming true also
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Maybe the piss poor exits and bombs without chasers are more powder dry? It is a huge concern going into the final.
What I do find astonishing is the transformation in this forward pack from the first game until now. They are now direct, physically uncompromising, efficient and disciplined. Have they just suddenly clicked or were they faking it for 4 years? I mean, you could barely trust them to go 3 phases in that first game and ball retention was dreadful. Now nobody gets a sniff. It's absolutely awesome, but again, where tf was that before?
