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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • voodooV voodoo

    Also - thoughts on whether Sami did enough to warrant the bench spot next week? Tough on Coles who hasn’t played badly, but he def adds a point of difference

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    @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    Also - thoughts on whether Sami did enough to warrant the bench spot next week? Tough on Coles who hasn’t played badly, but he def adds a point of difference

    Nope, his line out is still not accurate enough. And Coles is a point of difference too, just in a different way

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    • The IrishmanT The Irishman

      @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"

      Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
      Checks notes
      3 tries

      I thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.

      Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.

      I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out

      (If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)

      Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.

      Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !

      Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.

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      @The-Irishman said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"

      Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
      Checks notes
      3 tries

      I thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.

      Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.

      I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out

      (If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)

      Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.

      Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !

      Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.

      You’re contradicting yourself right here.

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      • voodooV voodoo

        Also - thoughts on whether Sami did enough to warrant the bench spot next week? Tough on Coles who hasn’t played badly, but he def adds a point of difference

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        @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        Also - thoughts on whether Sami did enough to warrant the bench spot next week? Tough on Coles who hasn’t played badly, but he def adds a point of difference

        Good question.

        And how do you choose?

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        • MN5M MN5

          @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

          Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

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          @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

          Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

          Wiese weighing in too. The SA media Mafia making their play.

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          • The IrishmanT The Irishman

            @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            There is nothing more tedious than a massive online ref whinge from supposed "neutrals"

            Oh no, if only Angus had found ways to scrub off 4 AB tries, then they would only have won by
            Checks notes
            3 tries

            I thought Gardner was good today. Super clear in his communication. Didn't blow little shit, but obvious shit. The dominant team got the rub, same as always.

            Irish fans thinking thats a stitch up are completely devoid of self-reflection.

            I don't expect perfection, I expect a guy to manage thr game and let the players sort it out

            (If I had a whinge I thinknthe worst call of the game was binning a guy for an infraction 80+ metres from.his try line with no warning)

            Everyone goes against the ABs when they start winning. Especially from the British Isles, that’s nothing new.

            Which makes Burgers comments all the more disappointing. That’s not the bloke that used to smash and be smashed by JC back in the day then have a beer afterwards !

            Because he sees the same thing that everyone else sees, apart from those wearing black tinted glasses. Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game. Of course it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. AB's were always going to hammer a poor Argentina side. But it does end any competitiveness and the potential for a decent game to watch.

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            @The-Irishman said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Another fuck up of a ref shafting the weaker team on the micro decisions over the entire game.

            So Ireland were a weak team!? Gotcha?

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              #1409

              I really like the consistency and calmness of the front row when Lomax plays. And De Groot. While they keep winning I leave it to the coaches as to hooker. So lucky we have 3 v good v different styles of hooker.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

                Wiese weighing in too. The SA media Mafia making their play.

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                @booboo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

                Wiese weighing in too. The SA media Mafia making their play.

                Ritchie should do the same during the game tommorrow. Oh no that's right...he actually has some class.

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                  Thought ABs got the rub of the green without it being spectacularly over the top. Same as Boks last Week, basically. Only this time it certainly was not close to game deciding

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                    Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

                    Wiese weighing in too. The SA media Mafia making their play.

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                    #1412

                    @booboo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    @MN5 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                    Yeah he is far too much of a ‘play hard, leave it on the pitch’ type guy than a whinger I would have thought

                    Wiese weighing in too. The SA media Mafia making their play.

                    At about 200kg by the looks of him these days.

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

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                      @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                      That is exactly what the Walrus and Burger are doing.

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        @MajorRage so who is your top 5 refs ..?
                        Because it just seems after every game there’s an issue with the on the day official

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                        @Steven-Harris why are you asking me?

                        I’m not a ref watcher on the whole, I respect their job is basically impossible.

                        The TMO, different.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                          That is exactly what the Walrus and Burger are doing.

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                          @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          I wonder if Burgers comments are more calculated than just a whinge. Start sowing the seeds in the minds of Barnes or whoever refs the final. Get the press talking about how the All Blacks are a protected species

                          That is exactly what the Walrus and Burger are doing.

                          Well no, he’s just being a whiny, cantankerous fluffybunny like he’s been since the dawn of time.

                          Burger is still a good dude in my eyes. My favourite Bok during his playing days.

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                            Just started watching the game (fell asleep last night), and LOL @ the Argies trying to take players out ahead of most rucks.

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                              Just strolled through the NH media on X.

                              To be fair most were high in praise of NZ and critical of Gardner not the over arching point. Only true exception of this …. Walrus.

                              He’s playing so many of you like a fiddle.

                              If you want NH media AB fanboy level read Paul Williams. If you want superb analysis read Murray Kinsella.

                              Walrus has no place anymore, except in his own ego, and relies on winding ppl up to remain relevant.

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                                I'm not saying our shit don't stink - we definitely have our share of dickheads, but I'd be bloody embarrassed if ex ABs were using Twitter or whatever tf its called these days to criticise the ref in that manner and with that motivation. Just hope England gives them something else to moan about.

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                                  I didn't watch the France - South Africa game but read France made a ton of line breaks and good attacks.
                                  I'd be interested in knowing how they got through the Bok defence and whether we can replicate it.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Just started watching the game (fell asleep last night), and LOL @ the Argies trying to take players out ahead of most rucks.

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                                    @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    Just started watching the game (fell asleep last night), and LOL @ the Argies trying to take players out ahead of most rucks.

                                    Taking out Cane at 20:00 was really OTT.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Just started watching the game (fell asleep last night), and LOL @ the Argies trying to take players out ahead of most rucks.

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                                      @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      Just started watching the game (fell asleep last night), and LOL @ the Argies trying to take players out ahead of most rucks.

                                      What, so you mean All Blacks illegitimately daring to get within a metre of a ruck being fairly removed by the brave Argentinians?

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @kiwiinmelb nah, I'd love to beat SA, given we have only met 1 other time, would be the ultimate clash of the titans.

                                        Although revenge for 2019 would sweet...

                                        Fuck that I want the easy route, imagine how fucked England would be if they defeat the boks

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                                        @Machpants said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @kiwiinmelb nah, I'd love to beat SA, given we have only met 1 other time, would be the ultimate clash of the titans.

                                        Although revenge for 2019 would sweet...

                                        Fuck that I want the easy route, imagine how fucked England would be if they defeat the boks

                                        Yeah but imagine the fucking moaning and excuses from your English mates. I'm already seeing dickheads moaning about how NZ were average and lucky that Argentina were a disgrace.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Fair play Fozzie. You’ve got us to the final. Now let’s knock the bugger off! That extra days rest will be handy.

                                          They gave motm to JB but I thought Mounga was outstanding (apart from being ball greedy at the end)

                                          He left 15 points out there with poor kicking and not passing.

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                                          @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Fair play Fozzie. You’ve got us to the final. Now let’s knock the bugger off! That extra days rest will be handy.

                                          They gave motm to JB but I thought Mounga was outstanding (apart from being ball greedy at the end)

                                          He left 15 points out there with poor kicking and not passing.

                                          Completely wrong.

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