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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • voodooV voodoo

    @stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    @voodoo Argentina to score 31?

    Damn you! πŸ˜€

    But seriously, I have us WINNING by 30 tomorrow. All this talk of overconfidence in the team is nonsense. They’ll have prepared well, they know what’s ahead.

    I’m going with 42-10

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    @voodoo I think there are enough there with hurt from 2019 to remove any complacency, especially when we put Ireland out last time in the 1/4 too.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rugby-world-cup-2023/2023/10/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-move-on-from-ireland-victory-as-semi-final-against-argentina-awaits.html

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      I am going to be pissed off if the ABs win on the weekend. I have been really calm during this cup, having resigned myself to a limp AB effort. Now I am slowly starting to build hope and if we make the final I will be a fucking nervous wreck. Damn you Fozzie.

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      • S stodders

        Minutes played by Arg and NZ squads in World Cup so far:

        43f70d30-1b29-4e72-8433-156df239b41e-image.jpeg

        https://x.com/rpetty80/status/1714949409639747959?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA

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        @stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.

        Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.

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          A better table showing the SF squads by position

          image.jpeg

          https://x.com/analystgus/status/1714966442439790815?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA

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          @stodders our reserve 9 has 43 minutes. Lol ;(

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          • F foobaNZ

            @stodders our reserve 9 has 43 minutes. Lol ;(

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            @foobaNZ said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @stodders our reserve 9 has 43 minutes. Lol ;(

            Not ideal - hopefully we get out by my predicted 30 point lead by the 37 min mark so we can double his playing time πŸ€ͺ

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            • F foobaNZ

              @stodders our reserve 9 has 43 minutes. Lol ;(

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              @foobaNZ said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

              our reserve 9 has 43 minutes. Lol ;(

              I was surprised his minutes were that low.

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                Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

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                  Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

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                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                    Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

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                    @His-Bobness won't find anyone who disagrees here. We're all miffed about it but I think the lack of comment this week is we're all resigned to it.

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                      with at most 160mins of rugby in the Black jersey left im wondering if theyre just going to let smith run and they know there will be less questions about having left Christine on the bench than if the young gun Roigard wasn't used...let Roigard have his moment in the sun next year

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

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                        @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

                        This Stuart?

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300904034/english-rugby-scribe-stuart-barnes-downplays-all-blacks-world-cup-hopes

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

                          This Stuart?

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300904034/english-rugby-scribe-stuart-barnes-downplays-all-blacks-world-cup-hopes

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                          @Chris-B yeah this guy

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @Chris-B yeah this guy

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                            @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Chris-B yeah this guy

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                              @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                              @Chris-B yeah this guy

                              πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

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                                @taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

                                He's normally very gushy about the ABs, and also correct in this point. He's also correct that the level of game in NH club rugby is much more intense than SR. If the Puma throw everything at the ABs, and get ahead whilst messing up/frustrating them, these ABs are more than likely to 'freeze'. He also says that England have a better chance of an upset, so doesn't actually think Arg are in with a realistic chance.

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                                  On Christie - when they say he has an edge on defense, I assume they mean his ability to organise the defense around the fringes, like what Smith was doing against Ireland. They probably had some concerns there with Roigard being so young and the likelyhood of us being attacked in those channels, so went for a more experienced head. The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    On Christie - when they say he has an edge on defense, I assume they mean his ability to organise the defense around the fringes, like what Smith was doing against Ireland. They probably had some concerns there with Roigard being so young and the likelyhood of us being attacked in those channels, so went for a more experienced head. The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

                                    I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

                                    The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

                                    They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

                                      I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

                                      The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

                                      They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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                                      @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                                        @Kiwiwomble I'll be very surprised. AS got a 20 minute rest around halftime so was able to play the last 30 minutes of the last game.

                                        It was pretty noticeable vs the Boks earlier this season that they started getting to Aaron just before he got subbed.

                                        While on the topic, your logic on Christie's selection further above is also bit sketchy - what if Smith gets injured in the first minute? I don't think they'd want 79 minutes of their third choice halfback. πŸ™‚

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

                                          Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

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