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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • F frugby

    Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

    They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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    @frugby did you see Smith against Ireland? Shocking start. Can't believe we picked him again.

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      @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

      “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

      Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

      One of the most humbling days as an England rugby fan. We actually played quite well, but he destroyed us, it’s a weird feeling watching your team get taken apart and falling in love with one of the opposition players at the same time. Comfortably my favourite ever rugby player, from any nation.

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      @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

      Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

      Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

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        Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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          @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

          I also have the ABs by 12…….after 15 minutes!

          Up 25 at the half, and 30+ at FT (I’m allowing for a drop-off after we empty the bench)

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            Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

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            • TimT Tim

              Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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              @Tim Friday night in France, right?

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.

                Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.

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                @Chris-B said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                @stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.

                Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.

                Don't let the Hawkes posters know, all that dry powder will be consumed before the game.

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                • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                  Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

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                  @Jailbreak7 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                  Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

                  Save that until the final

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                    @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                    Grey and dry as I type

                    11:15am

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                      @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                      Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                      Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

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                      @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                      Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                      Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

                      @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                      Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                      Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

                      I thought Leprechauns were Irish

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                        Grey and dry as I type

                        11:15am

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                        @MiketheSnow Weather forecast for today and tomorrow at Stade de France.

                        Tonight - wet with a bit of wind, but not too cold (take your rain coat Mike)

                        Tomorrow - wet, with a fair bit of wind (3x), and a lot colder (6 degrees colder)

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                          Our reserve halfback has played half a game of rugby. Beautiful symmetry.

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                            Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                            @Tim You know the game is tonight European time?

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                              From the minutes played to date, I was a little concerned that Ardie was going to be overused. He does have the most minutes in an attritional position.

                              But even still, it is only 5 hours of rugby in 6 weeks

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                              • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

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                                @His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

                                Reason given is it's horses for courses and he's there for his D. Can only assume Schmidt and Foster ( and poss. Ryan) see something we don't.

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  with at most 160mins of rugby in the Black jersey left im wondering if theyre just going to let smith run and they know there will be less questions about having left Christine on the bench than if the young gun Roigard wasn't used...let Roigard have his moment in the sun next year

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                                  @Kiwiwomble

                                  Maybe the A team feel more comfortable with Christie and is experience?

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                                    @Tim Friday night in France, right?

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                                    @stodders I keep forgetting that's it's their Friday night. Same forecast. My brother said it's really coming down on the southern coast at the moment.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                                      @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                                      We're playing Friday ...

                                      Kick off in just less than 9 hours ...

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300992057/player-exodus-creates-headaches-for-incoming-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson

                                        Interesting discussion this. SA have proved their team isn't impacted by players moving O/S, so is it time for us to do it too? The NH club sides have definitely come on leaps and bounds so it's hard to argue players won't get good experience slotting in up there. Sure, more players will leave, but it will also provide more opportunities for new up and comers to make their way into Super Rugby. I was always against playing players who left to go o/s but it seems a bit outdated today.

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300992057/player-exodus-creates-headaches-for-incoming-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson

                                          Interesting discussion this. SA have proved their team isn't impacted by players moving O/S, so is it time for us to do it too? The NH club sides have definitely come on leaps and bounds so it's hard to argue players won't get good experience slotting in up there. Sure, more players will leave, but it will also provide more opportunities for new up and comers to make their way into Super Rugby. I was always against playing players who left to go o/s but it seems a bit outdated today.

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                                          @LagerLout said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300992057/player-exodus-creates-headaches-for-incoming-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson

                                          Interesting discussion this. SA have proved their team isn't impacted by players moving O/S, so is it time for us to do it too? The NH club sides have definitely come on leaps and bounds so it's hard to argue players won't get good experience slotting in up there. Sure, more players will leave, but it will also provide more opportunities for new up and comers to make their way into Super Rugby. I was always against playing players who left to go o/s but it seems a bit outdated today.

                                          It may be a problem for Robertson, but it's a problem for NZR to fix.

                                          Can't dump everything into the Head Coach's lap.

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