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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • S stodders

    @Dodge England beat the Boks last time they played in 2021. Marcus Smith was playing 10 though 😬

    Teams from that day:

    England Team
    1 Bevan Rodd
    2 Jamie Blamire
    3 Kyle Sinckler
    4 Maro Itoje
    5 Jonny Hill
    6 Courtney Lawes (Captain)
    7 Sam Underhill
    8 Tom Curry
    9 Ben Youngs
    10 Marcus Smith
    11 Jonny May
    12 Manu Tuilagi
    13 Henry Slade
    14 Joe Marchant
    15 Freddie Steward

    South Africa Team
    1 Ox Nché
    2 Bongi Mbonambi
    3 Trevor Nyakane
    4 Eben Etzebeth
    5 Lood de Jager
    6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
    7 Kwagga Smith
    8 Duane Vermeulen
    9 Cobus Reinach
    10 Handré Pollard
    11 Makazole Mapimpi
    12 Damian de Allende
    13 Lukhanyo Am
    14 Jesse Kriel
    15 Willie le Roux

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    @stodders

    Are you forgetting the November 2022 game when we got mullered?

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      I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.
      I think some are underselling the Fijian pack a little. They are really physical, and really hard at the breakdown, and the English beat them.
      South Africa will have to work to win this, but it i think it's the weapons out wider that will make the difference.

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      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

        @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        We’re going to get smashed. Our forwards are no physical match for the Boks, in the loose or at the set piece. And our backs aren’t good enough to live off shit ball, which is all they’ll get. Mitchell is going to get squashed going backwards.

        Actually dreading how embarrassing it might be.

        How I wish that your post becomes reality Dodge.

        But I think you're being overly pessimistic.
        England are starting to put it together when it counts.
        Their self belief has grown considerably and player performance with it.
        They have settled on a game plan which is well suited to knockout rugby.

        As a Bok fan, I am nervous for this game. I'm hoping we didn't play our "final" this Sunday against France.
        There is a memory from a 2019 semi England played in that is haunting me....

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        @Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        There is a memory from a 2019 semi England played in that is haunting me....

        You'll be fine, I'm sure Rassie Nienaber wont change the make up of the team to combat one aspect of England's play and then not combat that aspect at all during the game.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.
          I think some are underselling the Fijian pack a little. They are really physical, and really hard at the breakdown, and the English beat them.
          South Africa will have to work to win this, but it i think it's the weapons out wider that will make the difference.

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          @mariner4life said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.

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            @stodders

            Are you forgetting the November 2022 game when we got mullered?

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            @Catogrande did England play last November? I thought they took the time off 😂

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              @Catogrande did England play last November? I thought they took the time off 😂

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              @stodders

              Touche mon frère!

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                Ben O'Keeffe is the ref

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                  Ben O'Keeffe is the ref

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                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  Ben O'Keeffe is the ref

                  16 Boks against 15.

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                    Luke Pearce for final, please.

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                      Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand) will take charge of England v South Africa in Saint-Denis on Saturday, 21 October (21:00 CET). He will be joined by assistant referees Andrew Brace (Ireland) and Paul Williams (New Zealand) and TMO Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand).

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                        The New Zealand official will referee England v South Africa for the second time, having been in the middle for South Africa’s 42-39 victory in June 2018.

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                          Happy with B.O.K.
                          Despite all the flak he copped recently, I rate him as the best ref at the RWC.
                          I just hope all the criticism doesn't change the way he oversees a game normally.

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                            Happy with B.O.K.
                            Despite all the flak he copped recently, I rate him as the best ref at the RWC.
                            I just hope all the criticism doesn't change the way he oversees a game normally.

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                            @Billy-Webb He'll be watching the review of the France game and pinging the Boks all night at the breakdown 😉

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                              @Billy-Webb He'll be watching the review of the France game and pinging the Boks all night at the breakdown 😉

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                              @stodders

                              Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
                              But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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                                @stodders

                                Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
                                But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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                                @Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                @stodders

                                Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
                                But to be honest, I expect him to hope he'll be better than that.

                                FIFY

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                                  @stodders

                                  Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
                                  But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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                                  @Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @stodders

                                  Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
                                  But to be honest, I expect him to hope he won't be better than that.

                                  FIFY

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                                    Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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                                      Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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                                      @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

                                      And then it'll still be close

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                                        Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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                                        @Dodge a red card will give you a chance. It'll at least keep the score down 😄

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                                          Going to this one too

                                          Can't see anything but an England hammering

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