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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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    Although I generally like the Springboks, I would enjoy the most if England hammer them like they did the ABs in 2019 and then go down in a whimper to the ABs in the final, again as in 2019 only it was to the Boks. If Argentina win the semi, I want the Boks to win and then win the final too. Argentina always with the soccer theatrics, don't like them

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      @Dodge @Catogrande

      “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

      From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

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        @Dodge @Catogrande

        “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

        From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

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        @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @Dodge @Catogrande

        “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

        From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

        I think he meant performances, not form. Cos he is like an overzealous actor out there, the fucking tool

        Rodd and Stewart are not up to the job in any department.

        He had a few banger songs, so that's a bit harsh

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          @Dodge @Catogrande

          “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

          From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

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          @stodders

          Earl has been very good but not really in a traditional No8 way. He’s been playing a great flanker’s role with an 8 on his back. A bit like Savea from a year or so back.

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            @Dodge @Catogrande

            “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

            From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

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            @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @Dodge @Catogrande

            “England's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.”

            From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.

            Give yourself an uppercut Kevin

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              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/17/england-rassie-erasmus-south-africa-dark-arts-world-cup/

              Gatland voices his opinion on Rassie and suggests what Borthwick should bring up with officials pre-match

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                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/17/england-v-south-africa-latest-rugby-world-cup-joel-stransky/

                Stransky does a 2003 Fitzy 😂. He’d better hope they win. Humble pie is difficult to swallow 😬

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                The first part of the quote probably describes SA’s gameplan quite well too. 😬

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                  South African media bullish about Bok chances:

                  https://supersport.com/rugby/rugby-world-cup/news/1461e9c3-d96e-403f-bb3b-74268564b020/treating-saturday-as-another-final-is-key-for-boks

                  "Yet while the different routes they took to the semifinals may be England’s big hope, meaning that less may have been taken out of them than has been taken out of the South Africans, that didn’t really look to be the case after their close win over Fiji in Marseille. They were playing lesser opponents and it was definitely a lower tier and inferior game to either of the Paris quarterfinals, but Owen Farrell’s team had to work as hard for victory as the Boks did.

                  They also don't have the depth, no other team has, that the Boks have, and therefore don't have the leeway their opponents may have when it comes to ensuring or even creating freshness."

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                    I’d prefer to see England win this one. It’d be great for them to make the final after all the crap they’ve been through in the last 12 months or so.

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                      I’d prefer to see England win this one. It’d be great for them to make the final after all the crap they’ve been through in the last 12 months or so.

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                      @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      I’d prefer to see England win this one. It’d be great for them to make the final after all the crap they’ve been through in the last 12 months or so.

                      Please elaborate

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        I’d prefer to see England win this one. It’d be great for them to make the final after all the crap they’ve been through in the last 12 months or so.

                        Please elaborate

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                        @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

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                          @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

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                          @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

                          Oh wow, those poor dears.

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                            It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

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                              It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

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                              @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                              It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

                              Typical French fluffybunnies

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

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                                @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

                                I hear a lot of England fans and London-based Saffas are heading to Paris this weekend.

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                                  @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

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                                  @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

                                  What ? This has happened in England since the dawn of competitive sport and media covering it. Cry me a river and maybe watch the Beckham doco for some perspective.

                                  Go South Africa !!!!

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                                    It’s a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.

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                                    @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                    Don’t think either semifinal is going to sell out now either

                                    3 countries whose people are known for travelling and upping sticks to far flung countries, and a country just a train ride from London?

                                    I'd be very surprised if a game as close to a friendly as you can get sells out in London when England isn't involved, I'd be pretty surprised if these games don't.

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                                      @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.

                                      What ? This has happened in England since the dawn of competitive sport and media covering it. Cry me a river and maybe watch the Beckham doco for some perspective.

                                      Go South Africa !!!!

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                                      @MN5 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      Go South Africa !!!!

                                      Headlines like this might help anyone decide who to support.

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                                        @stodders

                                        Earl has been very good but not really in a traditional No8 way. He’s been playing a great flanker’s role with an 8 on his back. A bit like Savea from a year or so back.

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                                        @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        @stodders

                                        Earl has been very good but not really in a traditional No8 way. He’s been playing a great flanker’s role with an 8 on his back. A bit like Savea from a year or so back.

                                        Earl is like a 7.5. Knows how to disrupt the ball. I suspect the Boks will target him and try and get him stuck at the bottom of the tackle and rucks.

                                        For me the difference is the pace out wide of the Boks. With any space those two wingers can be electric.

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                                          I don’t think we deserve a break, we’ve been abject for a long time. The Boks have built a great structure and have great cattle. We don’t have the player base because we dismantled our youth development and our U20s are shit now. We also have a fucked club structure which means we don’t have the ability to ensure clubs pick props for example. We don’t have the coaching structure, relying on Hail Mary hires, allowing Eddie to piss off every decent coach and swap them every five minutes, taking too long to fire Eddie and appointing a team of coaches with almost no experience or track record, meanwhile our experienced coaches coach elsewhere. On top of that, our players and coaches are pretty hard to warm too - which would be a shame if we were good, is embarrassing when we’re not.

                                          I understand the odd opinion on here that England have a chance this weekend, but to me it suggests those people haven’t been watching closely enough. I don’t know any England fans who genuinely think we have a chance, some with unbelieved bravado, but no more than that.

                                          Now I can’t stand the Boks, don’t like the way they play, don’t like many of the players, despise Rassie. But I have to hand it to them they’ve built a hell of a set up.

                                          I was gutted for France on Sunday, and am not surprised they’ve gone cold, hard to see how they wouldn’t when they genuinely believed this was their best ever chance. My guess is they’ll support Argentina, New Zealand, South Africa, daylight in that order when the time comes. Don’t remember being less excited about an England World Cup game…

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