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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    Needs investigating and a ban if true. Ditto a false allegation. Some things shouldn't be left on the park

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/22/tom-curry-south-africa-bongi-mbonambi-racism-accusations/

    England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c---” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

    The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

    On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c--- what do I do?”

    O’Keeffe replies: “Nothing please.” He then adds “I will be on it” although it is not clear if this in reference to Curry’s complaint, but he takes no action against Mbonambi. There is no audible evidence of Mbonambi’s alleged abuse.

    After the final whistle, Mbonambi refused to shake Curry’s hand.

    Following the game the Sale Sharks openside was asked if Mbonambi said something he should not have, he replied, “yeah” but would not confirm the exact details. “It does not need to be talked about.”

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

    Needs investigating and a ban if true. Ditto a false allegation. Some things shouldn't be left on the park

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/22/tom-curry-south-africa-bongi-mbonambi-racism-accusations/

    England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c---” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

    The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

    On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c--- what do I do?”

    If true, Mbonambi should apologise for the white part. That's uncalled for.

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    • The IrishmanT The Irishman

      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

      Needs investigating and a ban if true. Ditto a false allegation. Some things shouldn't be left on the park

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/22/tom-curry-south-africa-bongi-mbonambi-racism-accusations/

      England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c---” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

      The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

      On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c--- what do I do?”

      If true, Mbonambi should apologise for the white part. That's uncalled for.

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      @The-Irishman 😂🙈

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        Needs investigating and a ban if true. Ditto a false allegation. Some things shouldn't be left on the park

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/22/tom-curry-south-africa-bongi-mbonambi-racism-accusations/

        England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c---” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

        The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

        On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c--- what do I do?”

        O’Keeffe replies: “Nothing please.” He then adds “I will be on it” although it is not clear if this in reference to Curry’s complaint, but he takes no action against Mbonambi. There is no audible evidence of Mbonambi’s alleged abuse.

        After the final whistle, Mbonambi refused to shake Curry’s hand.

        Following the game the Sale Sharks openside was asked if Mbonambi said something he should not have, he replied, “yeah” but would not confirm the exact details. “It does not need to be talked about.”

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        @Victor-Meldrew the SA way is that Bongi need to wash his feet.

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          #927

          Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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            @Victor-Meldrew did Curry hear it, or was it said directly at him? Different contexts

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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              @Victor-Meldrew

              It’s going to be funny if Tom Curry heard the word “kant” and assumed the Boks were talking about him.

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              • M Machpants

                Curry was visibly shaken after the match. When asked if something was said to him by Mbonambi, he said: “Yeah.”

                Visibily shaken, lol. I'd be shaken to my core for being called a white fluffybunny. Oh the humanity.

                Personally as I'm a) white and b.) A fluffybunny

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                @Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                Curry was visibly shaken after the match. When asked if something was said to him by Mbonambi, he said: “Yeah.”

                Visibily shaken, lol. I'd be shaken to my core for being called a white fluffybunny. Oh the humanity.

                Personally as I'm a) white and b.) A fluffybunny

                I had no idea that you are white.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew

                  Would Mnobambi be a natural Afrikaans speaker?

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @Victor-Meldrew

                    Would Mnobambi be a natural Afrikaans speaker?

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                    @Catogrande given most of the Bok forwards are Afrikaners, he’s probably speaking Afrikaans a lot of the time to them so they understand 😬

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                    • S stodders

                      @Catogrande given most of the Bok forwards are Afrikaners, he’s probably speaking Afrikaans a lot of the time to them so they understand 😬

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                      @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @Catogrande given most of the Bok forwards are Afrikaners, he’s probably speaking Afrikaans a lot of the time to them so they understand 😬

                      Would be useful when playing Scotland too.

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                        https://giphy.com/gifs/bigbrother-awkward-big-brother-5w29IggBPHgiZjnwvv

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                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                          @Victor-Meldrew

                          Would Mnobambi be a natural Afrikaans speaker?

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                          @Catogrande

                          According to Twitter, yes.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Catogrande

                            According to Twitter, yes.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew is that South African Twitter/X? 😬

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                              @Victor-Meldrew is that South African Twitter/X? 😬

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                              @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                              @Victor-Meldrew is that South African Twitter/X? 😬

                              In dark mode.

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                                Imagine this is your captain. Shithousery really cost them in this match. Awful choice of captain.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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                                  That translation makes no sense "oi you white side" yup totally normal thing to say.

                                  If they have it on a mic they can check it otherwise it's their words against eachother.

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                                  • M mooshld

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                    Perhaps there's an innocent explanation. Be good to have cleared up though, rather than fester.

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                                    That translation makes no sense "oi you white side" yup totally normal thing to say.

                                    If they have it on a mic they can check it otherwise it's their words against eachother.

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                                    @mooshld

                                    No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

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                                      Hope we get Wayne again.

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                                      • S stodders

                                        @Victor-Meldrew it is out now. It has to be investigated. If Curry made it up, he needs to be banned for sullying Mbonambi’s reputation.

                                        World rugby can’t do nothing.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        World rugby can’t do nothing.

                                        Oh I think they can, and they often do. Nothing, that is.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          Needs investigating and a ban if true. Ditto a false allegation. Some things shouldn't be left on the park

                                          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/22/tom-curry-south-africa-bongi-mbonambi-racism-accusations/

                                          England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c---” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

                                          The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

                                          On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a white c--- what do I do?”

                                          O’Keeffe replies: “Nothing please.” He then adds “I will be on it” although it is not clear if this in reference to Curry’s complaint, but he takes no action against Mbonambi. There is no audible evidence of Mbonambi’s alleged abuse.

                                          After the final whistle, Mbonambi refused to shake Curry’s hand.

                                          Following the game the Sale Sharks openside was asked if Mbonambi said something he should not have, he replied, “yeah” but would not confirm the exact details. “It does not need to be talked about.”

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                                          nostrildamus
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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          England flanker Tom Curry alleged to referee Ben O’Keeffe that South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “Fern poster” during the Springboks’ World Cup semi-final victory.

                                          The incident occurred just before the half-hour mark with England leading 9-3 as Curry approached O’Keeffe, the New Zealand official.

                                          On the referee’s microphone, Curry can be clearly heard asking, “Sir, Sir, if their hooker calls me a Fern Poster, what do I do?”

                                          O’Keeffe replies: “Nothing please.” He then adds “I will be on it, you fluffybunny” although it is not clear if this in reference to Curry’s complaint, but he takes no action against Mbonambi. There is no audible evidence of Mbonambi’s alleged abuse.

                                          After the final whistle, Mbonambi refused to shake Curry’s hand.

                                          Following the game the Sale Sharks openside was asked if Mbonambi said something he should not have, he replied, “yeah” but would not confirm the exact details. “It does not need to be talked about. But I bet there's a thousand word thread on the Fern about it.”

                                          FIFY.

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