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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Le Roux is the most overrated player in the game. The very rare moment of brilliance doesn't make up for a litany of fůck-ups and brain explosions. He also appears to be a prize wånker.

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      #969

      On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners

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      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

        Le Roux is the most overrated player in the game. The very rare moment of brilliance doesn't make up for a litany of fůck-ups and brain explosions. He also appears to be a prize wånker.

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        @Rancid-Schnitzel a bit like Farrell in that respect then. But England love “fazz” .. other teams/supporters see him as a complete jackass.

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        • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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          These language-related explanations are pretty weak imho. I'm generally very accepting that some bad shit can be said in the heat of battle. This isn't exactly an office environment, and these guys are doing their best to legally fůck each other up. But if they're going to throw the book at guys like Potgeiter (bundle of sticks) and Marler (Gypsy boy) then that has to apply for everyone.

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          • frugbyF frugby

            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @mooshld

            No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

            To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

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            @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

            There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

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            • frugbyF frugby

              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              @mooshld

              No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

              To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

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              @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              @mooshld

              No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

              To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

              Hah brilliant.

              Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

              There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

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              • OomPBO OomPB

                @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

                There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

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                @OomPB said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

                There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

                Yeah that must have been it.

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                  #975

                  Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                  Current WR Ranking...

                  South Africa
                  New Zealand
                  Ireland
                  France
                  England
                  Scotland

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                  • Billy WebbB Offline
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                    Relief.
                    That was my overwhelming emotion after that game.
                    I was concerned that the Boks were coming off that epic battle against France and would be flat.
                    And they were. They were at least 10% down on individual performance across the park.

                    Having said that, I give immense credit to England for blunting the Boks in almost every facet of the game - bar the scrums once Ox and Koch came on. They kicked and chased well, were excellent in the lineouts and the loose and their defence was heroic. They suffocated the Boks virtually out of the game. In the end, it was immensely unlucky and almost cruel for them to lose the game in the 78th minute.

                    On the (one tiny) plus side for the Boks, they showed enough character to win ugly when they really were well outplayed. I'll take that. But if that level of performance is repeated in the final we are going to see our backsides against the ABs.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @mooshld

                      No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

                      To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

                      Hah brilliant.

                      Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

                      There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

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                      @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @mooshld

                      No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

                      To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

                      Hah brilliant.

                      Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

                      There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

                      I'm not saying that and you have totally ignored my final line. The key thing to note is that this whole kant explanation has come from online experts, not the Boks themselves.

                      Nothing will come from it, because it was he said she said, but to flat out say this is a foregone conclusion is wide of the mark.

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                      • T thelemmning70

                        Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                        Current WR Ranking...

                        South Africa
                        New Zealand
                        Ireland
                        France
                        England
                        Scotland

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                        #978

                        @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                        Current WR Ranking...

                        South Africa
                        New Zealand
                        Ireland
                        France
                        England
                        Scotland

                        So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                        Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                          Current WR Ranking...

                          South Africa
                          New Zealand
                          Ireland
                          France
                          England
                          Scotland

                          So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                          Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

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                          @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                          Current WR Ranking...

                          South Africa
                          New Zealand
                          Ireland
                          France
                          England
                          Scotland

                          So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                          Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                          Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

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                          • W32W W32

                            On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners

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                            #980

                            @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                            On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                            And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                            <shrug>

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                              Victor Meldrew
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                              Good article from Stuart Barnes on England's need to score tries.

                              https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/praise-englands-precision-but-pray-for-a-bit-more-panache-xxs2xgsgn

                              https://archive.ph/tRWGb

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                Good article from Stuart Barnes on England's need to score tries.

                                https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/praise-englands-precision-but-pray-for-a-bit-more-panache-xxs2xgsgn

                                https://archive.ph/tRWGb

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                                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                  @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                                  And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                                  <shrug>

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                                  @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                                  And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                                  <shrug>

                                  Stop whining you white line.

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                                  • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                                    @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                    Absolute dickhead behaviour from Willie Le Roux on the final whistle yesterday. Good thing BOK was there to restore order straight away or else things could have got very ugly quickly.

                                    https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1716139992202801392

                                    What an absolute prick of a player. For that alone I hope your boys smash them next week.

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                                    @The-Irishman Yeah, almost as disrespectful as Rieko after the Irish game...

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                                    • OomPBO OomPB

                                      @stodders Bongi is afrikaans speaking. There was n issue in 2011 WC when the ref misunderstood blinde kant."blind side"

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                                      #985

                                      @OomPB Yep, originally from the Free State (and played for the Cheetahs); he even went to an Afrikaans school, Hoër Tegniese Skool Louis Botha, in Bloemfontein

                                      • MY BAD - thinking of Ox Nche... haha
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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        Absolute dickhead behaviour from Willie Le Roux on the final whistle yesterday. Good thing BOK was there to restore order straight away or else things could have got very ugly quickly.

                                        https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1716139992202801392

                                        Every time I see Le Roux play I am baffled at how he has a single solitary cap.

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                                        Buff
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                                        @antipodean He holds the record for most try assists in Springbok rugby history

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                                        • T thelemmning70

                                          @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                                          Current WR Ranking...

                                          South Africa
                                          New Zealand
                                          Ireland
                                          France
                                          England
                                          Scotland

                                          So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                                          Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                                          Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

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                                          @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                                          Current WR Ranking...

                                          South Africa
                                          New Zealand
                                          Ireland
                                          France
                                          England
                                          Scotland

                                          So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                                          Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                                          Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

                                          Or 2019 - Japan and Wales...

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