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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

    Le Roux is the most overrated player in the game. The very rare moment of brilliance doesn't make up for a litany of fůck-ups and brain explosions. He also appears to be a prize wånker.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel a bit like Farrell in that respect then. But England love “fazz” .. other teams/supporters see him as a complete jackass.

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      These language-related explanations are pretty weak imho. I'm generally very accepting that some bad shit can be said in the heat of battle. This isn't exactly an office environment, and these guys are doing their best to legally fůck each other up. But if they're going to throw the book at guys like Potgeiter (bundle of sticks) and Marler (Gypsy boy) then that has to apply for everyone.

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      • F frugby

        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @mooshld

        No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

        To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

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        @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

        There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

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        • F frugby

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @mooshld

          No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

          To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

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          @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @mooshld

          No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

          To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

          Hah brilliant.

          Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

          There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

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          • OomPBO OomPB

            @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

            There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

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            @OomPB said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @frugby well then you never understand. Wit kant mean he should stay on the white side. English jerseys are white meaning Curry should stay on side.

            There will come nothing from this. Curry have a lot of Afrikaans speaking teammates at his club.

            Yeah that must have been it.

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              Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

              Current WR Ranking...

              South Africa
              New Zealand
              Ireland
              France
              England
              Scotland

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                Relief.
                That was my overwhelming emotion after that game.
                I was concerned that the Boks were coming off that epic battle against France and would be flat.
                And they were. They were at least 10% down on individual performance across the park.

                Having said that, I give immense credit to England for blunting the Boks in almost every facet of the game - bar the scrums once Ox and Koch came on. They kicked and chased well, were excellent in the lineouts and the loose and their defence was heroic. They suffocated the Boks virtually out of the game. In the end, it was immensely unlucky and almost cruel for them to lose the game in the 78th minute.

                On the (one tiny) plus side for the Boks, they showed enough character to win ugly when they really were well outplayed. I'll take that. But if that level of performance is repeated in the final we are going to see our backsides against the ABs.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @mooshld

                  No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

                  To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

                  Hah brilliant.

                  Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

                  There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

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                  @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @frugby said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @mooshld

                  No, but you can imagine a context where "wit kant" could be used - e.g, having a pop after contesting a breakdown - "You're the white side/jou die wit kant"

                  To me this just seems a convenient cover-up. I don't speak Afrikaans of course, but at least as an English translation this makes zero sense. It also depends on the context of course, what words were said around it.

                  Hah brilliant.

                  Ohhhh good one SA, sooo convenient you just happen to have another widely spoken language where "Kant" means "side".

                  There are so many situations where it could easily be appropriately said and most likely wasn't even said to Curry (who is a moron) and yet you want to cite the convenience of inventing another language a few hundred years ago.

                  I'm not saying that and you have totally ignored my final line. The key thing to note is that this whole kant explanation has come from online experts, not the Boks themselves.

                  Nothing will come from it, because it was he said she said, but to flat out say this is a foregone conclusion is wide of the mark.

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                  • T thelemmning70

                    Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                    Current WR Ranking...

                    South Africa
                    New Zealand
                    Ireland
                    France
                    England
                    Scotland

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                    @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                    Current WR Ranking...

                    South Africa
                    New Zealand
                    Ireland
                    France
                    England
                    Scotland

                    So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                    Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                      Current WR Ranking...

                      South Africa
                      New Zealand
                      Ireland
                      France
                      England
                      Scotland

                      So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                      Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

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                      @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                      Current WR Ranking...

                      South Africa
                      New Zealand
                      Ireland
                      France
                      England
                      Scotland

                      So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                      Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                      Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

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                      • W W32

                        On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners

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                        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                        And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                        <shrug>

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                          Good article from Stuart Barnes on England's need to score tries.

                          https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/praise-englands-precision-but-pray-for-a-bit-more-panache-xxs2xgsgn

                          https://archive.ph/tRWGb

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            Good article from Stuart Barnes on England's need to score tries.

                            https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/praise-englands-precision-but-pray-for-a-bit-more-panache-xxs2xgsgn

                            https://archive.ph/tRWGb

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                              On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                              And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                              <shrug>

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                              @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                              @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                              On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                              And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                              <shrug>

                              Stop whining you white line.

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                              • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                                @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                Absolute dickhead behaviour from Willie Le Roux on the final whistle yesterday. Good thing BOK was there to restore order straight away or else things could have got very ugly quickly.

                                https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1716139992202801392

                                What an absolute prick of a player. For that alone I hope your boys smash them next week.

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                                @The-Irishman Yeah, almost as disrespectful as Rieko after the Irish game...

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                                • OomPBO OomPB

                                  @stodders Bongi is afrikaans speaking. There was n issue in 2011 WC when the ref misunderstood blinde kant."blind side"

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                                  @OomPB Yep, originally from the Free State (and played for the Cheetahs); he even went to an Afrikaans school, Hoër Tegniese Skool Louis Botha, in Bloemfontein

                                  • MY BAD - thinking of Ox Nche... haha
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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                    Absolute dickhead behaviour from Willie Le Roux on the final whistle yesterday. Good thing BOK was there to restore order straight away or else things could have got very ugly quickly.

                                    https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1716139992202801392

                                    Every time I see Le Roux play I am baffled at how he has a single solitary cap.

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                                    @antipodean He holds the record for most try assists in Springbok rugby history

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                                    • T thelemmning70

                                      @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                                      Current WR Ranking...

                                      South Africa
                                      New Zealand
                                      Ireland
                                      France
                                      England
                                      Scotland

                                      So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                                      Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                                      Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

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                                      @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      Bok team going to be knackered going into this. 2 tough games on the trot. After the final they would have played every team in the current top 6 world rankings....

                                      Current WR Ranking...

                                      South Africa
                                      New Zealand
                                      Ireland
                                      France
                                      England
                                      Scotland

                                      So you're saying they've had the perfect warm up to prepare themselves?

                                      Bokke continue to firm in favouritism.

                                      Compare that to the 2007 WC they won.... Argi and Fiji in knockouts... Very different. They will do well to recover and definite chance AB's can run away with it.

                                      Or 2019 - Japan and Wales...

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        On the bongi thing: onkant, (offside) windgat (asshole) …many Afrikaans words that could easily be misinterpreted. England are famous moral high ground whiners.

                                        And yet all that has happened is that Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref, downplayed it post match, the England team have said nothing and we’ve seen no whining on here from the English contingent and very little in the press.

                                        <shrug>

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                                        @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref

                                        All that has happened? Come on man that's huge.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref

                                          All that has happened? Come on man that's huge.

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                                          @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          Curry raised a possible racial slur to the ref

                                          All that has happened? Come on man that's huge.

                                          Not in the context of what I was saying and replying to, which was about England being a bunch of whiners. "All" was in regard to Curry's actions, not the actual possible racial slur. Which I agree, is significant if proven to be true.

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