Lincoln McClutchie - 16th best 1st 5
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@Canes4life said in Lincoln McClutchie:
Why do we have a whole thread about McClutchie anyway? I don't even think the likes of Richie or Dan had their own threads on the Fern. McClutchie must be doing something right.
86 posts and counting of decent discussion about the player, so he's certainly earned his own thread.
We aren't at Toeava or A Ioane yet though.
@MajorRage said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Canes4life said in Lincoln McClutchie:
Why do we have a whole thread about McClutchie anyway? I don't even think the likes of Richie or Dan had their own threads on the Fern. McClutchie must be doing something right.
86 posts and counting of decent discussion about the player, so he's certainly earned his own thread.
We aren't at Toeava or A Ioane yet though.
I'm now plotting my next Bay player to discuss to get them their own thread too - sadly I'm in the middle of Course Advisory Committees so have had limited opportunity to comment since it went to it's own thread.
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These Hawkes Bay fans are unbearable huh fellas.... almost as bad as some of the Cane's fans around here....
@Yeahtheboys said in Lincoln McClutchie:
These Hawkes Bay fans are unbearable huh fellas.... almost as bad as some of the Cane's fans around here....
Some of them (not me of course) are both Bay and Canes fans.
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I'll get shot down for this, but think Bay fans have rose-tinted glasses with McClutchie. Is he the second coming of christ? No.
No one from the Bay has claimed he's the second coming of christ. If that's where you're coming from you're wilfully missing the point ...
I'm not wilfully missing the point. My point is that Hawke's Bay fans have their blinkers on with McClutchie. Every now and then there are players who shoot through the NPC and are extremely unlucky not to get Super Rugby contracts, but that sort of things has happened in all sports forever. There are always lucky player and unlucky players - there is not an issue with the Super Rugby contracting system just because McClutchie didn't get a contract.
It isn't like he is a new player, has previously spent time in camp with the Highlanders and possibly some of the other NZ sides, also ignoring that he was with MP. Several new 10s have been signed up, and they have not signed McClutchie. Considering the amount of new players signed, if teams were really interested they would have found a spot for him (Unless he turned a contract down).
Despite what some might think, the fact no team wants him tells you there is a reason why. Without evidence, I wouldn't suggest it is anything sinister, so there is obviously things in his game they don't like.
@frugby said in Lincoln McClutchie:
I'll get shot down for this, but think Bay fans have rose-tinted glasses with McClutchie. Is he the second coming of christ? No.
No one from the Bay has claimed he's the second coming of christ. If that's where you're coming from you're wilfully missing the point ...
I'm not wilfully missing the point. My point is that Hawke's Bay fans have their blinkers on with McClutchie. Every now and then there are players who shoot through the NPC and are extremely unlucky not to get Super Rugby contracts, but that sort of things has happened in all sports forever. There are always lucky player and unlucky players - there is not an issue with the Super Rugby contracting system just because McClutchie didn't get a contract.
It isn't like he is a new player, has previously spent time in camp with the Highlanders and possibly some of the other NZ sides, also ignoring that he was with MP. Several new 10s have been signed up, and they have not signed McClutchie. Considering the amount of new players signed, if teams were really interested they would have found a spot for him (Unless he turned a contract down).
Despite what some might think, the fact no team wants him tells you there is a reason why. Without evidence, I wouldn't suggest it is anything sinister, so there is obviously things in his game they don't like.
You claimed you weren't wilfully missing the point and then went on to a whole bunch of stuff not related to what I quoted as the point of the wilfully missing the point. :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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The whole point is that according to Super Rugby Coaches they think that Lincoln isn't in the top 15 first fives in New Zealand. And to me that's just fucking bullshit.
@Billsy111 not really...each coach is only responsible for thier region, so for the Blues say, thier coaches dont see him in the top 3 available to sign, assuming they had any spots anyway.
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i doubt there was any spots available at the chiefs. all three would have been signed early if not on multi year contracts. if ioane wasnt you would have him over LM even with ioanes faults. even then we didnrt have room for cashmore who id rate over LM as well
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The whole point is that according to Super Rugby Coaches they think that Lincoln isn't in the top 15 first fives in New Zealand. And to me that's just fucking bullshit.
@Billsy111 said in Lincoln McClutchie:
The whole point is that according to Super Rugby Coaches they think that Lincoln isn't in the top 15 first fives in New Zealand. And to me that's just fucking bullshit.
out of interest who would you have him over?
not saying your wrong as ive said above chiefs i wouldnt think have room. -
No the web was wrong, but no worries, just you accused me of lying , and I showing you I wasn't. But no probs anyway, as I said I did a 2 sec google as I thought it all it was worth.
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@Nepia said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Nepia I'm shocked and stunned you didn't notice it about McClutchie, yet did about Morgan.
That's because he's always been fairly chunky/solid
He's no Piri Weepu though...
@Stockcar86 said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Nepia said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Nepia I'm shocked and stunned you didn't notice it about McClutchie, yet did about Morgan.
That's because he's always been fairly chunky/solid
He's no Piri Weepu though...
Hey you leave a good Wainui lad outta this conversation.
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@Dan54 you didn't say you got it from an "article" you said it as though you knew and it was the truth. When it wasn't, it was just a guess...by someone else.
@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Dan54 you didn't say you got it from an "article" you said it as though you knew and it was the truth. When it wasn't, it was just a guess...by someone else.
Well I guess that's where we all get our info from, including you saying it wrong huh??
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FABLM?
Ok I'll leave.
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Q) Who in their right mind turns down a SR contract with the Crusaders?
A) Lincoln McClutchie.
@Windows97 said in Lincoln McClutchie - 16th best 1st 5:
Q) Who in their right mind turns down a SR contract with the Crusaders?
A) Lincoln McClutchie.
Not the kind of solid decision making the ABs need at 10
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@Windows97 said in Lincoln McClutchie - 16th best 1st 5:
Q) Who in their right mind turns down a SR contract with the Crusaders?
A) Lincoln McClutchie.
Not the kind of solid decision making the ABs need at 10
@canefan i dont think there has been much suggestion he should be playing for the AB's has there? thought it started just as surprise the leading points scorer in the NPC didn't get a super gig...which i dont think is out of line
As i said, the Highlanders have gone for a 30 year old who will go back to the NH rather than someone who actually played 10 outside fakatava for example
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Who knows, maybe McClutchie was the coke snorting Shield dismantler so all the clubs saw that as a white flag…. I mean red flag.
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@canefan i dont think there has been much suggestion he should be playing for the AB's has there? thought it started just as surprise the leading points scorer in the NPC didn't get a super gig...which i dont think is out of line
As i said, the Highlanders have gone for a 30 year old who will go back to the NH rather than someone who actually played 10 outside fakatava for example
@Kiwiwomble That's all true. And that last part gets overlooked or forgotten.
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Who knows, maybe McClutchie was the coke snorting Shield dismantler so all the clubs saw that as a white flag…. I mean red flag.
@Canes4life That or he was (a) the guy who posted or supplied the image that was posted on social media* or (b) the fall guy for the immediately exonerated Fakatava "Hey, we don't know what happened and we're yet to start our investigation, but HE had NOTHING to do with it. We KNOW that." or (c) he's the guy who dropped the shield on the concrete floor and now coaches think he has bad hands
