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Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    i kind of feel they would want too develop the land to offset the cost of a new stadium

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    i kind of feel they would want too develop the land to offset the cost of a new stadium

    Yup. That's a lot of very expensive housing land right there

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    • mikedogzM mikedogz

      If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

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      @mikedogz said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

      If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

      It's the wrong shape. If they are intent on killing Western Springs for speedway, it is oval, with banked sides. Not sure if it's big enough though

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      • canefanC canefan

        @mikedogz said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

        If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

        It's the wrong shape. If they are intent on killing Western Springs for speedway, it is oval, with banked sides. Not sure if it's big enough though

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        @canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

        @mikedogz said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

        If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

        It's the wrong shape. If they are intent on killing Western Springs for speedway, it is oval, with banked sides. Not sure if it's big enough though

        It floods. I think that's the biggest issue

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          Quay Park or Eden Ver2 versus BAU, about what I thought

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350293148/eden-park-and-quay-park-go-through-next-stage-become-new-zealands-national-stadium

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            The other two were joke contenders.

            Stuff with a scoop eh? EP to get a rook!!

            I don't think a roof can be justified. Weather is a great leveler in sport. How teams adjust to conditions is part of the game.

            Yeah it might be of use for a few concerts but at what cost?

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            • dogmeatD dogmeat

              The other two were joke contenders.

              Stuff with a scoop eh? EP to get a rook!!

              I don't think a roof can be justified. Weather is a great leveler in sport. How teams adjust to conditions is part of the game.

              Yeah it might be of use for a few concerts but at what cost?

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              @dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

              The other two were joke contenders.

              Stuff with a scoop eh? EP to get a rook!!

              I don't think a roof can be justified. Weather is a great leveler in sport. How teams adjust to conditions is part of the game.

              Yeah it might be of use for a few concerts but at what cost?

              i actually dont believe they take things like that into consideration, its all about the crowds and if a roof will get more people in the door

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                The other two were joke contenders.

                Stuff with a scoop eh? EP to get a rook!!

                I don't think a roof can be justified. Weather is a great leveler in sport. How teams adjust to conditions is part of the game.

                Yeah it might be of use for a few concerts but at what cost?

                i actually dont believe they take things like that into consideration, its all about the crowds and if a roof will get more people in the door

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                and if a roof will get more people in the door

                I don't think it will.

                I've been to EP a lot over the years. It doesn't have heavy rain all that often.

                I think the roof is a vanity thing. Keeping up with all the others.

                Dunedin Chch yeah. Can be fucking cold at night Akl - not so much

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                  and if a roof will get more people in the door

                  I don't think it will.

                  I've been to EP a lot over the years. It doesn't have heavy rain all that often.

                  I think the roof is a vanity thing. Keeping up with all the others.

                  Dunedin Chch yeah. Can be fucking cold at night Akl - not so much

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                  @dogmeat a roof seems like a waste of money to me. None of the notable Aussie stadia have them

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @dogmeat a roof seems like a waste of money to me. None of the notable Aussie stadia have them

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                    @canefan Marvel has a roof so thats 4-5 of the AFL teams, even the AB's played under the roof 2 years ago

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                      I think a roof would be a great idea, I'd be way more likely to buy pricey tickets if I was sure that I, my wife, and my little boy would be dry.

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                        @gt12 agree, if they insist on playing games at night in the middle of winter then a roof makes it so much more family friendly

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                            im going to have to look into Quay Park more, i knew roughly where we were talking but went and had a look to lock it down in my head, came across some moc ups

                            alt text

                            the stadium itself is only about 160m x 180m...which is small, new christchurch is 180m x 220m

                            is the design several levels smaller in depth but greater in height or something, its just such a tight site!

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                              I think a roof would be a great idea, I'd be way more likely to buy pricey tickets if I was sure that I, my wife, and my little boy would be dry.

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                              @gt12 said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                              I think a roof would be a great idea, I'd be way more likely to buy pricey tickets if I was sure that I, my wife, and my little boy would be dry.

                              Isn't there also a middle ground as in the new SFS where all seats are covered but it's also not a full roof?

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                                @gt12 said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                                I think a roof would be a great idea, I'd be way more likely to buy pricey tickets if I was sure that I, my wife, and my little boy would be dry.

                                Isn't there also a middle ground as in the new SFS where all seats are covered but it's also not a full roof?

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                                @KiwiMurph i think thats just a minimum standard now days isn;t it?

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  im going to have to look into Quay Park more, i knew roughly where we were talking but went and had a look to lock it down in my head, came across some moc ups

                                  alt text

                                  the stadium itself is only about 160m x 180m...which is small, new christchurch is 180m x 220m

                                  is the design several levels smaller in depth but greater in height or something, its just such a tight site!

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                                  @Kiwiwomble here is a top down view that provides a bit more of an idea of what it would look like

                                  I think the tight measurements refer to where the stands meet the ground rather than the actual footprint. Having one end mostly open would save on footprint too.

                                  alt text

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                                    Needs a temporary train station next door for match day transport. Would be O for Awesome.

                                    Also, can't see it happening as no one has any money ๐Ÿ˜

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Kiwiwomble here is a top down view that provides a bit more of an idea of what it would look like

                                      I think the tight measurements refer to where the stands meet the ground rather than the actual footprint. Having one end mostly open would save on footprint too.

                                      alt text

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                                      @Kiwiwomble here is a top down view that provides a bit more of an idea of what it will look like

                                      alt text

                                      oh ok, so its changed since the one i found, theyre going to take a lot more of the surrounding properties

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                                        Needs a temporary train station next door for match day transport. Would be O for Awesome.

                                        Also, can't see it happening as no one has any money ๐Ÿ˜

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                                        @nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                                        Needs a temporary train station next door for match day transport. Would be O for Awesome.

                                        Also, can't see it happening as no one has any money ๐Ÿ˜

                                        there is a permanent station right there i think already, upgrade as part of the development

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Kiwiwomble here is a top down view that provides a bit more of an idea of what it would look like

                                          I think the tight measurements refer to where the stands meet the ground rather than the actual footprint. Having one end mostly open would save on footprint too.

                                          alt text

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

                                          @Kiwiwomble here is a top down view that provides a bit more of an idea of what it would look like

                                          I think the tight measurements refer to where the stands meet the ground rather than the actual footprint. Having one end mostly open would save on footprint too.

                                          alt text

                                          So how are they accommodating the rail lines?

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