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Black Caps v Australia

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    Southee fails in these 2 tests he might be looking at a Wagner retirement in the near future.
    His wkt taking ability has fallen off a cliff,I can see Australia dinning out on the NZ attack,

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    • ChrisC Chris

      Southee fails in these 2 tests he might be looking at a Wagner retirement in the near future.
      His wkt taking ability has fallen off a cliff,I can see Australia dinning out on the NZ attack,

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      @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

      Southee fails in these 2 tests he might be looking at a Wagner retirement in the near future.
      His wkt taking ability has fallen off a cliff,I can see Australia dinning out on the NZ attack,

      This tour is about 3 years too late for our bowling attack.

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        Wagner, Nicholls and Southee are the ones that needed to go from the blackcaps test team at the start of the summer.

        Only Southee left.

        The young players that have come in after belatedly getting an opportunity (Phillips, Ravindra, O'Rourke) have done well.

        I don't think Southee is in the top 2 NZ new-ball bowlers anymore.

        I don't think there is another 10 year career guy waiting in the wings, like the other 3 already mentioned above, ready to replace Southee seamlessly. But there are players who should or could be given a go. Who should go alright in NZ conditions, as the minimum.

        I can watch domestics and say, yeah I think this new ball bowler X is better than current Southee .... but what I can't easily form an opinion on is how good would they be in their 3rd spell of the day in Dhaka or Colombo etc

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        • VirgilV Virgil

          @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

          Southee fails in these 2 tests he might be looking at a Wagner retirement in the near future.
          His wkt taking ability has fallen off a cliff,I can see Australia dinning out on the NZ attack,

          This tour is about 3 years too late for our bowling attack.

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          @Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:

          @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

          Southee fails in these 2 tests he might be looking at a Wagner retirement in the near future.
          His wkt taking ability has fallen off a cliff,I can see Australia dinning out on the NZ attack,

          This tour is about 3 years too late for our bowling attack.

          Yeah I agree.

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            The Aussies be like

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              Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

              The only question for the playing 11 is Santner vs Kuggelin.

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                Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                The only question for the playing 11 is Santner vs Kuggelin.

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                @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                Kylo Ren comes back from the wilderness.

                But yeah. Sigh. Probably Scott K.

                Or a young tyro, tall fast and not already picked. I don't know who that is after WOR

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                • L LABCAT

                  Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                  The only question for the playing 11 is Santner vs Kuggelin.

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                  #352

                  @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                  Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                  The only question for the playing 11 is Santner vs Kuggelin.

                  No way.

                  he shouldn’t be anywhere near a test team…..and thats just judging him on what he’s done on the field.

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                  • VirgilV Virgil

                    So what are we thinking the side look like tomorrow

                    1.Latham
                    2.Young
                    3.Williamson
                    4.Ravindra
                    5.Mitchell
                    6.Nicholls/Phillips
                    7.Blundell
                    8.Santner
                    9.Henry
                    10.Southee
                    11.O'Rourke

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                    #353

                    @Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    So what are we thinking the side look like tomorrow

                    1.Latham
                    2.Young
                    3.Williamson
                    4.Ravindra
                    5.Mitchell
                    6.Nicholls/Phillips
                    7.Blundell
                    8.Santner
                    9.Henry
                    10.Southee
                    11.O'Rourke

                    Jettison Nicholls and I reckon that’s 100%.

                    MASSIVE chance for Young to make or break it. I’m a fan so hoping for the former.

                    Loads riding on KWs shoulders. Absolutely nothing new here.

                    Despite the massive ton vs SA I’m not convinced about Ravindra yet. Lots of our batsmen have started with a hiss and a roar and fizzled out.

                    Hoping Mitchell can continue the fine form.

                    Let’s see if Blundell remembers he can actually bat. High score of 17 not out in his last 10 innings.

                    Philips and Santner are still somewhat bits and pieces, let’s hope they add up.

                    That pace attack isn’t gonna scare oz too much overall.

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                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                      That pace attack isn’t gonna scare oz too much overall.

                      Southee vs Aus. 37 in 22 innings. SR of 74.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        That pace attack isn’t gonna scare oz too much overall.

                        Southee vs Aus. 37 in 22 innings. SR of 74.

                        image.png

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                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        That pace attack isn’t gonna scare oz too much overall.

                        Southee vs Aus. 37 in 22 innings. SR of 74.

                        image.png

                        ….and that includes the period he was at his best.

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                          While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                          Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

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                            @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                            Kylo Ren comes back from the wilderness.

                            But yeah. Sigh. Probably Scott K.

                            Or a young tyro, tall fast and not already picked. I don't know who that is after WOR

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                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            Who becomes captain if Southee is not good enough to keep his spot?

                            Kylo Ren comes back from the wilderness.

                            But yeah. Sigh. Probably Scott K.

                            Or a young tyro, tall fast and not already picked. I don't know who that is after WOR

                            Kylo is gonna need a back that isn't made of glass

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                              Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

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                              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                              Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                              Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

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                                @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                  Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                  Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                  He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

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                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                  Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                  Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                  He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                  Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                    Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                    Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                    He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                    Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

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                                    @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                    Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                    Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                    He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                    Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

                                    Five tests to gauge……10 innings.

                                    One incredible score in those 10 innings, the rest are sub par for a specialist batsman. That incredible score was against a limited team. He then got 29 and 20 against that team next time round.

                                    For such a small sample size this isn’t “in form” in the slightest.

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                                      Really interested to see how O'Rourke stacks up vs Aussies. Great barometer for where he is at.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                        Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                        Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                        He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                        Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

                                        Five tests to gauge……10 innings.

                                        One incredible score in those 10 innings, the rest are sub par for a specialist batsman. That incredible score was against a limited team. He then got 29 and 20 against that team next time round.

                                        For such a small sample size this isn’t “in form” in the slightest.

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                                        Rapido
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                                        #363

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                        While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                        Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                        Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                        He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                        Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

                                        Five tests to gauge……10 innings.

                                        One incredible score in those 10 innings, the rest are sub par for a specialist batsman. That incredible score was against a limited team. He then got 29 and 20 against that team next time round.

                                        For such a small sample size this isn’t “in form” in the slightest.

                                        He's talking form,not looking at the stats of his historical test career for which are majority too old to be relevant to form.

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                          Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                          Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                          He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                          Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

                                          Five tests to gauge……10 innings.

                                          One incredible score in those 10 innings, the rest are sub par for a specialist batsman. That incredible score was against a limited team. He then got 29 and 20 against that team next time round.

                                          For such a small sample size this isn’t “in form” in the slightest.

                                          He's talking form,not looking at the stats of his historical test career for which are majority too old to be relevant to form.

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                                          MN5
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                                          @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          While we’re ( harshly or otherwise ) picking on individuals.

                                          Tom Lathams average vs Australia is 26. This doesn’t really fill me with a huge amount of confidence.

                                          Almost all our batsmen bar Mitch Jr, Kane and Ravindra are in some sort of dip in form right now. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion, I expect us to get pumped

                                          He’s got past 50 ( well, 29 to be exact ) in test cricket once in 10 innings. Granted once he passed it he passed it and then fucken some……but I don’t think he has enough runs on the board ( yes that was intended ) to class him as being “in form”.

                                          Sounds like you don't know what "in form" means. But I know you actually do. Which makes your post very strange.

                                          Five tests to gauge……10 innings.

                                          One incredible score in those 10 innings, the rest are sub par for a specialist batsman. That incredible score was against a limited team. He then got 29 and 20 against that team next time round.

                                          For such a small sample size this isn’t “in form” in the slightest.

                                          He's talking form,not looking at the stats of his historical test career for which are majority too old to be relevant to form.

                                          OK, cheers for clearing that up.

                                          240, 12, 29 and 20 is still a bit inconsistent for my liking. Let’s see how he goes against Oz huh ?

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