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Black Caps v Australia

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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Paddles didn’t have anywhere near as much of a chance to decimate the minnows.

    Dunno about that. Average of 12.78 against SL with 37 wickets in only 6 tests

    Everyone else was in the 20's

    His kryptonite was away in Pakistan - averaged 47 in 1976 and never chose to tour again.

    Apart from SL he dined out on Oz 130 wickets @ 20.56

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    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Dunno about that. Average of 12.78 against SL with 37 wickets in only 6 tests

    Less than 10% of his test wickets though.

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    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

      Day One afternoon batting in the sunshine in Christchurch... a good chance for Kane to work on those stats.

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      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:

      Day One afternoon batting in the sunshine in Christchurch... a good chance for Kane to work on those stats.

      ... or not...

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        Goodnight

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          Goodnight from England

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            a bit of an aside, but i wonder if there are some worried guys at Cricket Australia

            This attack of theirs is relentless, as good as any that has gone around, all four have incredible records, and are seemingly ever-present.

            But

            They are 30, 33, 34, and 36. There is a chance all 4 of them finish at about the same time. Aus have a heap of promising seamers floating around (not so much in the spin department), but promise doesn't always equal results.

            There are already concerns at the lack of genuine batting options coming through, and the current line-up is at best brittle. This Aus team could just completely fall in a heap in a few years.

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              That's not going to help Kane's average vs the Big 3...

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                Williamson is really starting to majorly tarnish his legacy with an inability to perform at the top level against the best, that was a very soft dismissal that he played al around.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  How many wickets will NZ be down by lunch? This test could be decided in the first session.

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                  @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Australia:

                  This test could be decided in the first session.

                  OK, I was a little pessimistic. But just a little... :anguished_face:

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    His caerrer averages are quite interesting, high 30's against Aus, IND and ENG, 65+ against everyone else.

                    in isolation that looks bad

                    For India and Aus there is a bit of mitigation
                    Only 11 tests v Aus, 7 of them in Aus
                    13 test v India, 8 of them in India
                    So of the two good teams, 24 tests, 15 away.

                    The England record is weirder. 16 tests, even split home and away. And yet lowest average of the lot.

                    It's certainly not great.
                    Kohli averages 47 v Aus over 25 tests, and 42 v England over 28 tests
                    Root averages 40 v Aus over 34 tests, and 57 v India over 30 tests
                    Smith averages 56 v England over 37 tests, and 66 v India over 19 tests

                    So Kane gets less chances to score against this better teams, but you would find it hard to make an argument he's seized the chances he has been given. Playing away so much doesn't help, but it's not like he's cashing in at home either.

                    It's relatively easy to see why fans from the bigger nations don't hold Kane in the same esteem as us.
                    But they miss the point that relative to everyone else in NZ history, he stands out like dogs balls.

                    I got to watch him score a hundred at the 'gabba. I'll always remember that.

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                    There's a research project somewhere in working out the new advancements the Black Caps specialist coaches have made in being Teflon...

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                      #745

                      Our batsmen just aren't quite good enough to put on enough runs against this lineup (which is one of the best ever TBF). If we could just get through to 325+ this innings then we're right in this game, but we're struggling to get beyond 200 in any innings. Which is a shame as our bowlers can actually knock over this fairly brittle Aus battling lineup but just don't quite have enough runs to play with.

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                        Hazelwood is actually too good. Test nearly gone already.

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                          @BerniesCorner when the ball is seaming a bit there are not many better at exploiting that than Hazlewood.

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                            Henry will be looking forward to that seam movement as well

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              His caerrer averages are quite interesting, high 30's against Aus, IND and ENG, 65+ against everyone else.

                              in isolation that looks bad

                              For India and Aus there is a bit of mitigation
                              Only 11 tests v Aus, 7 of them in Aus
                              13 test v India, 8 of them in India
                              So of the two good teams, 24 tests, 15 away.

                              The England record is weirder. 16 tests, even split home and away. And yet lowest average of the lot.

                              It's certainly not great.
                              Kohli averages 47 v Aus over 25 tests, and 42 v England over 28 tests
                              Root averages 40 v Aus over 34 tests, and 57 v India over 30 tests
                              Smith averages 56 v England over 37 tests, and 66 v India over 19 tests

                              So Kane gets less chances to score against this better teams, but you would find it hard to make an argument he's seized the chances he has been given. Playing away so much doesn't help, but it's not like he's cashing in at home either.

                              It's relatively easy to see why fans from the bigger nations don't hold Kane in the same esteem as us.
                              But they miss the point that relative to everyone else in NZ history, he stands out like dogs balls.

                              I got to watch him score a hundred at the 'gabba. I'll always remember that.

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                              @mariner4life said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              So Kane gets less chances to score against this better teams, but you would find it hard to make an argument he's seized the chances he has been given. Playing away so much doesn't help, but it's not like he's cashing in at home either.

                              It's relatively easy to see why fans from the bigger nations don't hold Kane in the same esteem as us.
                              But they miss the point that relative to everyone else in NZ history, he stands out like dogs balls.

                              Always feels like the Oz pundits and players only rate someone if they consistently do well in Oz. Understandably I guess, from their point of view.

                              Will always remember MD Crowe being interviewed in genuine awe on ABC Grandstand during a mid 2000's lunchbreak... while Black Caps batters playing in the Test were spoken about with contempt.

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                                i still, and have always, maintained that Hazlewood is the best test bowler in the world, and has been for some time.
                                Not as celebrated as the other 3 guys in the lineup, but he's the guy that knocks over the top order. 46% of his wickets are the top 4. Beautiful action through the crease, hits sexy areas, doesn't give up runs.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  i still, and have always, maintained that Hazlewood is the best test bowler in the world, and has been for some time.
                                  Not as celebrated as the other 3 guys in the lineup, but he's the guy that knocks over the top order. 46% of his wickets are the top 4. Beautiful action through the crease, hits sexy areas, doesn't give up runs.

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                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                  i still, and have always, maintained that Hazlewood is the best test bowler in the world, and has been for some time.
                                  Not as celebrated as the other 3 guys in the lineup, but he's the guy that knocks over the top order. 46% of his wickets are the top 4. Beautiful action through the crease, hits sexy areas, doesn't give up runs.

                                  …..and as a unit they’re incredible. If you include Lyon they’re as good as any Windies pace quartet overall.

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                                    Phillips gone with the total barely 100. This is far from ideal

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                                      how good is footy season? fucking love that all 3 codes are back

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                                        At least I can watch the Canes

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          how good is footy season? fucking love that all 3 codes are back

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                                          @mariner4life said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                          how good is footy season? fucking love that all 3 codes are back

                                          I just realised why Super starts so early.

                                          Withdraw and apologise for my earlier comments on rugby...

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