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Black Caps v South Africa

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  • boobooB booboo

    Have to say credit to SENZ for the radio commentary.

    Smithy, Coney and Bracewell just excellent.

    Non "expert" comms Garth Galloway (who has been around for years), McHardy and some fulla I've never heard of doing a pretty good job. Even the forced commercial messages are not too overt.

    Occasionally a bit caught in the narrative they can be a bit delayed with the description, but generally not bad.

    But the 3x explayers are excellent.

    Am not a fan of SENZ generally. Really struggle with Izzy Dagg, and Smithy isn't awesome when he's scripted, thus have not ventured too far into their shows.

    But muchly enjoying their commentary given current lack of televisual visioning.

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    @booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Have to say credit to SENZ for the radio commentary.

    Smithy, Coney and Bracewell just excellent.

    Non "expert" comms Garth Galloway (who has been around for years), McHardy and some fulla I've never heard of doing a pretty good job. Even the forced commercial messages are not too overt.

    Occasionally a bit caught in the narrative they can be a bit delayed with the description, but generally not bad.

    But the 3x explayers are excellent.

    Am not a fan of SENZ generally. Really struggle with Izzy Dagg, and Smithy isn't awesome when he's scripted, thus have not ventured too far into their shows.

    But muchly enjoying their commentary given current lack of televisual visioning.

    Always enjoyed Coney as a commentator.

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    • bayimportsB bayimports

      I'm no Francis Payne, but from my quick check.. Kane also just surpassed Howarth (held since 78) for the most aggregate runs in a test match where batter scores a 100 in each innings minimum for a NZer. So 2 x 100 needed in a test for this.

      top spot globally unlikely to get beaten in a while... virtual chocolate fish if anyone wants to guess who holds it?

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      @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      I'm no Francis Payne, but from my quick check.. Kane also just surpassed Howarth (held since 78) for the most aggregate runs in a test match where batter scores a 100 in each innings minimum for a NZer. So 2 x 100 needed in a test for this.

      top spot globally unlikely to get beaten in a while... virtual chocolate fish if anyone wants to guess who holds it?

      I don't understand the question!

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      • bayimportsB bayimports

        I'm no Francis Payne, but from my quick check.. Kane also just surpassed Howarth (held since 78) for the most aggregate runs in a test match where batter scores a 100 in each innings minimum for a NZer. So 2 x 100 needed in a test for this.

        top spot globally unlikely to get beaten in a while... virtual chocolate fish if anyone wants to guess who holds it?

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        @bayimports I don't understand either

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          I think I understand…..

          Is it 2 metre Peter Fulton ? He got a hundred in each innings vs England if I recall.

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          • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

            @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

            I'm no Francis Payne, but from my quick check.. Kane also just surpassed Howarth (held since 78) for the most aggregate runs in a test match where batter scores a 100 in each innings minimum for a NZer. So 2 x 100 needed in a test for this.

            top spot globally unlikely to get beaten in a while... virtual chocolate fish if anyone wants to guess who holds it?

            I don't understand the question!

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            @KiwiPie
            That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
            hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

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            • VirgilV Virgil

              @KiwiPie
              That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
              hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

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              @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

              @KiwiPie
              That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
              hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

              Yes !

              @Virgil is back !

              How good is KW going huh ?

              I remember that test pretty much transformed Gooch from an 80s battler to a bit of a legend. First triple hundred in SIXTEEN years. NO ONE scored one in the 80s.

              Is Tubby Taylor second ? ( triple ton and 90 odd in a single test )

              Lara with 400 is obviously up there too.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                He leaves Hayden, Root and Chanderpaul behind in career hundreds.

                One behind the Aussie Steves - Smith and Waugh now. 21 innings less than SS. 90 innings less than SW.

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                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                He leaves Hayden, Root and Chanderpaul behind in career hundreds.

                One behind the Aussie Steves - Smith and Waugh now. 21 innings less than SS. 90 innings less than SW.

                Only Smith and Tendulkar got to 31 Test 100's quicker as well

                Also another cool stat, in the 9 tests hes played while Southee has been captain hes scored over 1100 runs, has hit a total of 7 x 100's, no 50's and averages 80.00

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                  #239

                  Glad we batted again. Conway needs every innings he can get.

                  Plus, the resting, 30 degrees, etc etc

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                    Yep I'm a fan of not enforcing the follow on and absolutely demoralising the other team but making them chase more than 500.

                    @MN5 I was going to say the same, I remember 2 metre Peter hitting those tons and one of them was up around the 140 mark I think? Though there may be some old school person like Turner that has done it as well.

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                    • RapidoR Rapido

                      Glad we batted again. Conway needs every innings he can get.

                      Plus, the resting, 30 degrees, etc etc

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                      @Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                      Glad we batted again. Conway needs every innings he can get.

                      Plus, the resting, 30 degrees, etc etc

                      It seems to be the fashion these days doesn't it? IIRC I've questioned the strategy some time ago, but teams almost never enforce the follow on now

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                        Glad we batted again. Conway needs every innings he can get.

                        Plus, the resting, 30 degrees, etc etc

                        It seems to be the fashion these days doesn't it? IIRC I've questioned the strategy some time ago, but teams almost never enforce the follow on now

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                        @canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                        @Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                        Glad we batted again. Conway needs every innings he can get.

                        Plus, the resting, 30 degrees, etc etc

                        It seems to be the fashion these days doesn't it? IIRC I've questioned the strategy some time ago, but teams almost never enforce the follow on now

                        Yeah - Dravid and Laxman reset people's views; having to bowl again runs the risk of the bowlers cooking, and then having to chase a modest total in the worst conditions of the match. Far easier to go out, knock the ball aroudn with no pressure, and then have a good bowl at the opposition.

                        This is possibly affected by modern batting too; who can block out bowlers for a long time? It's a skill that hasn't been in demand for some time

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                          Stead also pointed out that the Aussie tests are relatively soon too, so it's not just managing workloads for this test but over the next month.

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                          • VirgilV Virgil

                            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                            He leaves Hayden, Root and Chanderpaul behind in career hundreds.

                            One behind the Aussie Steves - Smith and Waugh now. 21 innings less than SS. 90 innings less than SW.

                            Only Smith and Tendulkar got to 31 Test 100's quicker as well

                            Also another cool stat, in the 9 tests hes played while Southee has been captain hes scored over 1100 runs, has hit a total of 7 x 100's, no 50's and averages 80.00

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                            @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                            He leaves Hayden, Root and Chanderpaul behind in career hundreds.

                            One behind the Aussie Steves - Smith and Waugh now. 21 innings less than SS. 90 innings less than SW.

                            Only Smith and Tendulkar got to 31 Test 100's quicker as well

                            Also another cool stat, in the 9 tests hes played while Southee has been captain hes scored over 1100 runs, has hit a total of 7 x 100's, no 50's and averages 80.00

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                              Overnight declaration.

                              Two whole days ( weather permitting ) to wrap this up.

                              A hiding well and truly on the cards but the BCs will need to be wary of what happened last series.

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                                I thought we'd have batted on this morning for the first hour to really cook them, until we woke up to cloud cover.

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                                • VirgilV Virgil

                                  @KiwiPie
                                  That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
                                  hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

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                                  @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  @KiwiPie
                                  That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
                                  hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

                                  Best on debut is surely Lawrence Rowe.

                                  His first three scores in tests were 214, 100*, 22.

                                  Momentarily he averaged 336 - the highest for a player who has been dismissed at least once*.

                                  *Assuming no-one has surpassed this in recent times - I haven't paid as much attention as I used to.

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                    He leaves Hayden, Root and Chanderpaul behind in career hundreds.

                                    One behind the Aussie Steves - Smith and Waugh now. 21 innings less than SS. 90 innings less than SW.

                                    Only Smith and Tendulkar got to 31 Test 100's quicker as well

                                    Also another cool stat, in the 9 tests hes played while Southee has been captain hes scored over 1100 runs, has hit a total of 7 x 100's, no 50's and averages 80.00

                                    04cc94ff-2f25-45ec-9e38-a29644c6f3e4-image.png

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                                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

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                                    So Williamson either gets out for less than 13 or scores a ton πŸ˜‰ πŸ™‚

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                      Even though we've almost certainly got enough, I would bat on tomorrow and take the Jaaps completely out of the game - even mathematically - set them 600 in 5.5 sessions.

                                      Need to ensure we remove that "never beaten them in a series" and giving their bowlers a bit more work will help a bit in test 2.

                                      They are now. Declare 10 mins before start of play. Fucks with their head enough.

                                      Still pisses me off we don't enforce the follow on.

                                      We bowled like 2 sessions. They're demoralised. 360 behind. We have seven bowlers, 2 and a half days, and 3 new balls.

                                      I do not understand.

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                                      @booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                      Even though we've almost certainly got enough, I would bat on tomorrow and take the Jaaps completely out of the game - even mathematically - set them 600 in 5.5 sessions.

                                      Need to ensure we remove that "never beaten them in a series" and giving their bowlers a bit more work will help a bit in test 2.

                                      They are now. Declare 10 mins before start of play. Fucks with their head enough.

                                      Almost certainly, but 88 runs per session will get them there and that is mathematically doable - so I would have crushed that by batting for an hour this morning.

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                                        ....my plan wouldn't have Brand out yet, though! πŸ™‚

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          ....my plan wouldn't have Brand out yet, though! πŸ™‚

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                                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          ....my plan wouldn't have Brand out yet, though! πŸ™‚

                                          First hour is going to be lethal for batting. Don't think the game will still be going by the time I can get back there.

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