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Black Caps v South Africa

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    I honestly never thought that Sir Richard Hadley would ever have competition for the Greatest NZ cricketer ever, but i think it's time for that to be a real chat.

    His record is among the best ever. He may not have the bulk runs of guys who play more tests, but his average is right there at the top for guys that have played 90+ tests. Getting to 10,000 runs would i think make it official.

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      O'Rourke got MOTM

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        I honestly never thought that Sir Richard Hadley would ever have competition for the Greatest NZ cricketer ever, but i think it's time for that to be a real chat.

        His record is among the best ever. He may not have the bulk runs of guys who play more tests, but his average is right there at the top for guys that have played 90+ tests. Getting to 10,000 runs would i think make it official.

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        @mariner4life agreed, he is certainly putting himself right up in contention, if he knocks off a couple of more milestones, it will be hard to ignore

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          Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

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          • StagS Stag

            Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

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            @Stag said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

            Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

            They won’t drop the captain after a historic series win. Who would replace him ?

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              Good stuff.

              Thanks for coming Jaaps - next time try fielding your B team in a RWC Final, you feckers! 🙂

              Overall, seven good innings by us - and one poor one that put us under pressure.

              Comfortable in the end.

              Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Stag said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

                They won’t drop the captain after a historic series win. Who would replace him ?

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                #563

                @MN5 Santner or Ajaz Patel.

                Given my scepticism about playing spinners in NZ, though - right now I'm hoping for...

                Latham, Young, Williamson, Mitchell, Ravindra, Phillips, Blundell, Henry, Jamieson, Southee, O'Rourke.

                Sorry Devon, but you need some runs in the short forms.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  Good stuff.

                  Thanks for coming Jaaps - next time try fielding your B team in a RWC Final, you feckers! 🙂

                  Overall, seven good innings by us - and one poor one that put us under pressure.

                  Comfortable in the end.

                  Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

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                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                  Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

                  7 in the last 12 is just ridiculous. Ridiculous.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                    Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

                    7 in the last 12 is just ridiculous. Ridiculous.

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                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                    Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

                    7 in the last 12 is just ridiculous. Ridiculous.

                    Context when you look at how many NZers have scored more than seven - and some of the names who scored seven or less.

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/team/batting-most-hundreds-career/new-zealand-5/test-matches-1

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                      Man this feels good. I know it's not the prime SA team, but wins are wins. Big bonus for WTC for us - I thought we were out of it after the Bangladesh loss, but we're gasping. A good showing against Aus (not gonna happen) and we'd be right in it.... until we go to India.

                      Happy Friday night everyone

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                        Kane has a better "hundreds per match" ratio than anyone except Bradman and a few flukes like Rodney Redmond and Andy Ganteaume.

                        7 in the last 12 is just ridiculous. Ridiculous.

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                        @nzzp it's been how long now since he got a fifty? Unless I missed one if he's getting to fifty, he's getting 100+. Epic stuff.

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                        • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                          @nzzp it's been how long now since he got a fifty? Unless I missed one if he's getting to fifty, he's getting 100+. Epic stuff.

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                          @Paekakboyz Five years or so maybe? I saw something on reddit about it.

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                            Last one was in the WTC final where he was 52*.

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                              I'll happily take that, after it looked like we were going to FUBAR another series win chance on Day two.

                              On Hadlee and Williamson comparisons. Given Hadlee was the world test wicket record holder at one stage, and was a lot handier with the bat than Kane is with the ball, I'm still hat tipping that way. Though probably best just to enjoy having seen both of them in most TSF'ers lifetimes.

                              On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter 🙂 )

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @MN5 Santner or Ajaz Patel.

                                Given my scepticism about playing spinners in NZ, though - right now I'm hoping for...

                                Latham, Young, Williamson, Mitchell, Ravindra, Phillips, Blundell, Henry, Jamieson, Southee, O'Rourke.

                                Sorry Devon, but you need some runs in the short forms.

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                                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                @MN5 Santner or Ajaz Patel.

                                Given my scepticism about playing spinners in NZ, though - right now I'm hoping for...

                                Latham, Young, Williamson, Mitchell, Ravindra, Phillips, Blundell, Henry, Jamieson, Southee, O'Rourke.

                                Sorry Devon, but you need some runs in the short forms.

                                I like that team.

                                Remember gang, Australia lost to a Windies team arguably worse than this SA one.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @Stag said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

                                  They won’t drop the captain after a historic series win. Who would replace him ?

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                                  #572

                                  @MN5 captain in name only, Kane is the leader of that team

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                                    think i heard on the wireless some thing like 11 of the last 12 scores over fifty out once for 89?

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                                      Australia are going to come hard at this test series,
                                      Forget about losing to the WI they are targeting this series.
                                      It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        Australia are going to come hard at this test series,
                                        Forget about losing to the WI they are targeting this series.
                                        It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

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                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                        It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

                                        you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

                                        In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

                                          you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

                                          In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

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                                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

                                          you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

                                          In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

                                          You live in hope we can lift in our conditions I am hopeful of a good series from us.
                                          But I know the Australian cricket mind set it will be very tough.

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