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Black Caps v South Africa

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Stag said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Both Southee and Wagner must be very marginal for the Australian series. Two wickets in two tests against a SA third string batting line up is simply not good enough from Southee. Both O’Rourke and Jamison need to be in that team.

    They won’t drop the captain after a historic series win. Who would replace him ?

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    @MN5 captain in name only, Kane is the leader of that team

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      think i heard on the wireless some thing like 11 of the last 12 scores over fifty out once for 89?

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        Australia are going to come hard at this test series,
        Forget about losing to the WI they are targeting this series.
        It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          Australia are going to come hard at this test series,
          Forget about losing to the WI they are targeting this series.
          It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

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          @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

          It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

          you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

          In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

            It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

            you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

            In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

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            @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

            @Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

            It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.

            you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.

            In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.

            You live in hope we can lift in our conditions I am hopeful of a good series from us.
            But I know the Australian cricket mind set it will be very tough.

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              bayimports
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              #577

              because the twitter embeds only sometimes work

              Highest averages in test wins (min 15 wins)
              130.08 Don Bradman
              81.86 Kane Williamson
              78.16 Inzamam-ul-Haq
              77.42 Garry Sobers
              #NZvSA

              https://twitter.com/FPayne100/status/1758359199397077333?s=20

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                KiwiMurph
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                #578

                Very well done.

                It's going to be a mammoth step up facing Cummins compared to 120k Proteas B half trackers. Should be fun

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                  Virgil
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                  Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                  One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

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                  • VirgilV Virgil

                    Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                    One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

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                    #580

                    @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                    Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                    One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

                    that doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test..

                    Edit: forget it, you're looking at conversions only (my bad), FYI he almost did have consecutive test record if it wasn't for the bangles first test

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                      Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones

                      The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA

                      A few tables to update...
                      Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
                      44 Ross Taylor
                      44 Tim Southee
                      43 Kane Williamson
                      Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSA

                      Best 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
                      % (100s/50s)
                      69 (29/13) D Bradman
                      51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
                      51 (28/27) M Clarke
                      51 (30/29) M Hayden
                      51 (34/33) Younis Khan
                      49 (32/33) K Williamson
                      49 (29/30) V Kohli
                      48 (22/24) W Hammond
                      #NZvSA

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                      • bayimportsB bayimports

                        @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                        One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

                        that doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test..

                        Edit: forget it, you're looking at conversions only (my bad), FYI he almost did have consecutive test record if it wasn't for the bangles first test

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                        @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                        One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

                        that doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innnings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test

                        It means the last 8 times he has gone past 50 he’s converted them all into 100s.
                        The record is 12 by Bradman

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                        • VirgilV Virgil

                          @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                          @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                          Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                          One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

                          that doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innnings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test

                          It means the last 8 times he has gone past 50 he’s converted them all into 100s.
                          The record is 12 by Bradman

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                          bayimports
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                          #583

                          @Virgil yeah I edited my post, I agree you were looking at conversion rate 🙂

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                          • bayimportsB bayimports

                            Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones

                            The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA

                            A few tables to update...
                            Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
                            44 Ross Taylor
                            44 Tim Southee
                            43 Kane Williamson
                            Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSA

                            Best 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
                            % (100s/50s)
                            69 (29/13) D Bradman
                            51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
                            51 (28/27) M Clarke
                            51 (30/29) M Hayden
                            51 (34/33) Younis Khan
                            49 (32/33) K Williamson
                            49 (29/30) V Kohli
                            48 (22/24) W Hammond
                            #NZvSA

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                            @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones

                            The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA

                            A few tables to update...
                            Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
                            44 Ross Taylor
                            44 Tim Southee
                            43 Kane Williamson
                            Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSA

                            Best 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
                            % (100s/50s)
                            69 (29/13) D Bradman
                            51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
                            51 (28/27) M Clarke
                            51 (30/29) M Hayden
                            51 (34/33) Younis Khan
                            49 (32/33) K Williamson
                            49 (29/30) V Kohli
                            48 (22/24) W Hammond
                            #NZvSA

                            Kane was at one point 24/33
                            Now he’s 32/33. Incredible really
                            His last 50 was the WTC final 3 years ago when he finished 52*

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                            • VirgilV Virgil

                              Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                              One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

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                              MN5
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                              @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                              Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
                              One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman

                              He really is. One more test ton will equal Alastair Cook. Another will equal Brian Lara, Mahela Jayawardene, Sunil Gavaskar and Younis Khan.

                              Far less test than them too.

                              Younis Khan had a hell of a record but he’s not spoken of in that top bracket very often

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                                mikedogz
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                                https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/nz-vs-sa-stats-kane-williamson-makes-records-as-new-zealand-end-test-series-drought-against-south-africa-1421354

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                                  booboo
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                                  #587

                                  Am glad we were first to win the Tangiwai Shield, it's such an amazing story.

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                                    Godder
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                                    Great to finally have a series win over the Proteas - congratulations to the Black Caps!

                                    It's good to have a genuine great in the batting ranks. Assuming Kane plays both tests against Oz, the second test in Christchurch will be his 100th test - might have to pop along for a day to see the great man in action.

                                    If he plays and bats all 4 innings and keeps to his average, he will move into the top 20 runscorers of all time - he is currently 25th. If he continues his purple patch, he may pass 9,000 runs in which case he would be 3rd= fastest to do so. At his current average, he will be 4th= fastest.

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                                      Gunner
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                                      I really enjoyed watching Kane bat today.

                                      What sets him apart for me is when he survives a close call, or a tough over or two, or even a tough hour or two, you can literally see him working out in his head how he’s going to combat what he’s up against.

                                      For instance there was a period today, I think he might have been on 30 odd, facing Paterson I think, he almost chipped two straight to short mid on in the same over, you could see him figuring out how he needed to adjust. Sure enough he didn’t do that again.

                                      What a privilege to watch him play.

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                                        BerniesCorner
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                                        Stayed up watching KW to the wee hours of the morning.
                                        For me test cricket is awesome , T20 leaves me cold.
                                        Was mightily impressed w the SA bowling early on.
                                        KW is the Richie McCaw of cricket.

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                                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                                          Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones

                                          The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA

                                          A few tables to update...
                                          Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
                                          44 Ross Taylor
                                          44 Tim Southee
                                          43 Kane Williamson
                                          Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSA

                                          Best 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
                                          % (100s/50s)
                                          69 (29/13) D Bradman
                                          51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
                                          51 (28/27) M Clarke
                                          51 (30/29) M Hayden
                                          51 (34/33) Younis Khan
                                          49 (32/33) K Williamson
                                          49 (29/30) V Kohli
                                          48 (22/24) W Hammond
                                          #NZvSA

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                                          @bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                                          Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones

                                          The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA

                                          A few tables to update...
                                          Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
                                          44 Ross Taylor
                                          44 Tim Southee
                                          43 Kane Williamson
                                          Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSA

                                          That last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
                                          Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.

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