Black Caps v South Africa
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradmanthat doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test..
Edit: forget it, you're looking at conversions only (my bad), FYI he almost did have consecutive test record if it wasn't for the bangles first test
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradmanthat doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innnings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test
It means the last 8 times he has gone past 50 he’s converted them all into 100s.
The record is 12 by Bradman -
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradmanthat doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innnings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test
It means the last 8 times he has gone past 50 he’s converted them all into 100s.
The record is 12 by Bradman@Virgil yeah I edited my post, I agree you were looking at conversion rate
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Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSABest 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
% (100s/50s)
69 (29/13) D Bradman
51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
51 (28/27) M Clarke
51 (30/29) M Hayden
51 (34/33) Younis Khan
49 (32/33) K Williamson
49 (29/30) V Kohli
48 (22/24) W Hammond
#NZvSA@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSABest 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
% (100s/50s)
69 (29/13) D Bradman
51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
51 (28/27) M Clarke
51 (30/29) M Hayden
51 (34/33) Younis Khan
49 (32/33) K Williamson
49 (29/30) V Kohli
48 (22/24) W Hammond
#NZvSAKane was at one point 24/33
Now he’s 32/33. Incredible really
His last 50 was the WTC final 3 years ago when he finished 52* -
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. BradmanHe really is. One more test ton will equal Alastair Cook. Another will equal Brian Lara, Mahela Jayawardene, Sunil Gavaskar and Younis Khan.
Far less test than them too.
Younis Khan had a hell of a record but he’s not spoken of in that top bracket very often
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Great to finally have a series win over the Proteas - congratulations to the Black Caps!
It's good to have a genuine great in the batting ranks. Assuming Kane plays both tests against Oz, the second test in Christchurch will be his 100th test - might have to pop along for a day to see the great man in action.
If he plays and bats all 4 innings and keeps to his average, he will move into the top 20 runscorers of all time - he is currently 25th. If he continues his purple patch, he may pass 9,000 runs in which case he would be 3rd= fastest to do so. At his current average, he will be 4th= fastest.
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I really enjoyed watching Kane bat today.
What sets him apart for me is when he survives a close call, or a tough over or two, or even a tough hour or two, you can literally see him working out in his head how he’s going to combat what he’s up against.
For instance there was a period today, I think he might have been on 30 odd, facing Paterson I think, he almost chipped two straight to short mid on in the same over, you could see him figuring out how he needed to adjust. Sure enough he didn’t do that again.
What a privilege to watch him play.
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Stayed up watching KW to the wee hours of the morning.
For me test cricket is awesome , T20 leaves me cold.
Was mightily impressed w the SA bowling early on.
KW is the Richie McCaw of cricket. -
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSABest 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
% (100s/50s)
69 (29/13) D Bradman
51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
51 (28/27) M Clarke
51 (30/29) M Hayden
51 (34/33) Younis Khan
49 (32/33) K Williamson
49 (29/30) V Kohli
48 (22/24) W Hammond
#NZvSA@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others. -
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.@reprobate said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.I recall a test win where Richard Hadlee (Richard Hadlee! In super seaming conditions.) didn't. (First win in England, 1983 Headingley. All wickets to the C team.) But I digress.
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@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.@reprobate said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.Yeah but that most test wins stat is pretty damn cool.
I got given one of those cricket nerd books in the early 2000s about NZs first fifty test wins. They got the 50th in the early 2000s. The team has more than doubled that since then.
Probably spoken enough about KW for now.
Taylor was a fantastic player in a brilliant era.
Southee is on the decline but he has had some terrific moments.
Worth noting that the immortal Paddles only led us to victory 22 times in comparison !
Wow, genuinely shocked at that. I thought late 30s would have been about right.
I think the point worth noting there is while Paddles is still our best player ever ( maybe because a legendary all rounder will always trump a legendary specialist ) the efforts of the others in unison yielded better results….
Then of course Paddles didn’t really have many if any minnows in his day to beat up on it must be said.
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We're not going to have Big Kyle for Australia - or anyone else - until next summer.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350183254/black-caps-bowler-kyle-jamieson-sidelined-injury-least-year
Pretty major loss.
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I'll happily take that, after it looked like we were going to FUBAR another series win chance on Day two.
On Hadlee and Williamson comparisons. Given Hadlee was the world test wicket record holder at one stage, and was a lot handier with the bat than Kane is with the ball, I'm still hat tipping that way. Though probably best just to enjoy having seen both of them in most TSF'ers lifetimes.
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter
)@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa:
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter )
They can be quick with the resources Conway has but something is holding him back.
Maybe it is other issues but there is to much repeats for me to understand why there is no correction at all, not even a forward press or back foot movement to get his feet moving to get into a better balanced position.
No correction of that front foot placement nothing just same every innings so same results.So same dismissals always off balance Lbw,Snicked off or caught in the covers or gully.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa:
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter )
They can be quick with the resources Conway has but something is holding him back.
Maybe it is other issues but there is to much repeats for me to understand why there is no correction at all, not even a forward press or back foot movement to get his feet moving to get into a better balanced position.
No correction of that front foot placement nothing just same every innings so same results.So same dismissals always off balance Lbw,Snicked off or caught in the covers or gully.
@Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa:
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter )
They can be quick with the resources Conway has but something is holding him back.
Maybe it is other issues but there is to much repeats for me to understand why there is no correction at all, not even a forward press or back foot movement to get his feet moving to get into a better balanced position.
No correction of that front foot placement nothing just same every innings so same results.So same dismissals always off balance Lbw,Snicked off or caught in the covers or gully.
Really frustrating. I watched his whole innings and he looked good getting to 17 before disaster struck.
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@Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa:
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter )
They can be quick with the resources Conway has but something is holding him back.
Maybe it is other issues but there is to much repeats for me to understand why there is no correction at all, not even a forward press or back foot movement to get his feet moving to get into a better balanced position.
No correction of that front foot placement nothing just same every innings so same results.So same dismissals always off balance Lbw,Snicked off or caught in the covers or gully.
Really frustrating. I watched his whole innings and he looked good getting to 17 before disaster struck.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa:
On Conway, his technical issues are one of the awkward joys of cricket. By the time TSFers and Junior parents are talking about things, there's no way that he is blind to it. If only the fixes were always quick (even I'd have been a decent batter )
They can be quick with the resources Conway has but something is holding him back.
Maybe it is other issues but there is to much repeats for me to understand why there is no correction at all, not even a forward press or back foot movement to get his feet moving to get into a better balanced position.
No correction of that front foot placement nothing just same every innings so same results.So same dismissals always off balance Lbw,Snicked off or caught in the covers or gully.
Really frustrating. I watched his whole innings and he looked good getting to 17 before disaster struck.
Very frustrating it is like there is a mental block and he reverts back to staying cast on the crease.
I hope he/they get it right NZ needs him firing.
