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    #770

    First 10 minutes of the second half. Teams parked in Napier's 22. Have seen two Hastings' driving maul's ending on the Napier try line, with Hastings knocking the ball on (or otherwise resulting in conceding a turnover) instead of scoring.

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      A good penalty kick from Hoera Stephenson makes it 6 - 3 to Hastings.

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        Try to one of the Hastings backs. I couldn't see the jersey number; it may have been one of the midfielders.

        Hoera Stephenson converts and it's 13 - 3 to Hastings!

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          #773

          Napier lock Nicholas Ennor is a very big lad (not just in height)!

          Prop Gus Brown, too. Only year 12, I think.

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            Hastings are using Cooper Flanders often in the line-out. He's a real pain in Napier's backside. Very good. He also seems to have matured since last year. He's not trying to do everything himself anymore.

            Hoera Stephenson attempts a penalty kick, but it's short.

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              I can't see his jersey number, but one of Napier's backs is a real liability. Terrible ball hog. He should pass more. Could be their fullback, but not sure.

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                Great try from Napier! I think that was Gilgal Leutele Malasia, but jerseys are so dirty, I can't read the numbers anymore.

                Thoroughly deserved. They were in Hastings' 22 for a while and are stronger at setpiece. Dominating the scrum in this half.

                The try goes uncorverted.

                13 - 8 Hastings.

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                  Cooper Flanders is a smart captain. Going for 3-pointers. Stephenson slots another one. 16 - 8 Hastings.

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                    Hastings now trying to run down the clock, but conceding a penalty in their half ... And another one.

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                      #779

                      Hastings steal the ball; that looked totally illegal, but the ref didn't see it.

                      It's full time: Napier Boys 8 - Hastings Boys 16

                      There really isn't much between these teams. I'd say Napier Boys' setpiece is better and their forwards look stronger. Their ball handling is worse though (many knock-ons). Flanders' decisions and Stephenson's boot (11 points) won this game for Hastings.

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                        If I'd had to pick an Under-18 team from this game, I would have too many loosies. There's much talent in both backrows.
                        I'd probably pick Hastings' LH prop Lolofie and Napier's TH prop Brown. Not sure about the hookers.
                        For the locks, I'd definitely pick Ennor, if only for his size. Don't know about the other one.
                        From the backs, I'd probably pick Hastings' 9, 10, 12 and 13 and Napier's 13 (moving him to the left wing) and 14. I'd put Napier's Moleli at fullback.

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                          Whoop whoop!

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                            Hastings steal the ball; that looked totally illegal, but the ref didn't see it.

                            It's full time: Napier Boys 8 - Hastings Boys 16

                            There really isn't much between these teams. I'd say Napier Boys' setpiece is better and their forwards look stronger. Their ball handling is worse though (many knock-ons). Flanders' decisions and Stephenson's boot (11 points) won this game for Hastings.

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                            @stargazer you gave me heart palpitations by listing Napier first. 😉

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                              @stargazer you gave me heart palpitations by listing Napier first. 😉

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                              @nepia Always home team first! 🙂

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                                @nepia Always home team first! 🙂

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                                @stargazer said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:

                                @nepia Always home team first! 🙂

                                That makes the win even sweeter. 😉

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                                  Articles about the NBHS v HBHS game:

                                  This one focuses on Hastings' first five Hoera Stephenson, a son of a Magpie, who's in his last year in the squad.
                                  https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/sport/sport/hbhs-rugby-pivot-shines-in-away-victory-over-nbhs

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/college-rugby-hastings-wins-big-1st-xv-match-in-napier/SBO3OERL7IKSDQEK7UN73HAFY4/

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                                    If I'd had to pick an Under-18 team from this game, I would have too many loosies. There's much talent in both backrows.
                                    I'd probably pick Hastings' LH prop Lolofie and Napier's TH prop Brown. Not sure about the hookers.
                                    For the locks, I'd definitely pick Ennor, if only for his size. Don't know about the other one.
                                    From the backs, I'd probably pick Hastings' 9, 10, 12 and 13 and Napier's 13 (moving him to the left wing) and 14. I'd put Napier's Moleli at fullback.

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                                    @stargazer the hstop200 website mentions Max Ratcliffe (year 12) as being one of the schoolboys to watch over the next year. How did he get on?

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                                    They also named a mid-year Hurricanes squad which included the below:

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                                    1. Salesa Seumagafagai (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                    2. Leon Tuiloma (Rathkeale College)
                                    3. Siale Lauaki (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                    4. Max Briant (Gisborne BHS)
                                    5. Maea Tema-Schimt (Scots College)
                                    6. Tino Savea (Lindisfarne College)
                                    7. Cooper Flanders (Hastings BHS)
                                    8. Gilgal Malasia (Napier BHS)
                                    9. Bradley Campbell (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                    10. Curtis Heaphy (Palmerston North BHS)
                                    11. Tony Solomona (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                    12. Anaru Paenga Morgan (St Paul’s Collegiate)
                                    13. Shaun O’Leary (Whanganui Collegiate)
                                    14. Kere Penitito (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                    15. Afa Moleli (Napier BHS)
                                    16. Vernon Bason (Feilding HS) Year 12
                                    17. Konradd Newland (Whanganui Collegiate) Year 12
                                    18. Nathaniel Hauiti (Gisborne BHS)
                                    19. AJ Malili Malo-Lauano (Feilding HS)
                                    20. Max Ratcliffe (Napier BHS) Year 12
                                    21. Keanu Kotuhi (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                    22. Jacob Waikari-Jones (Wellington College)
                                    23. Leo Gordan (Palmerston North BHS)
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                                      @stargazer the hstop200 website mentions Max Ratcliffe (year 12) as being one of the schoolboys to watch over the next year. How did he get on?

                                      379c2d13-3746-4ed7-bc5b-a5e9270bdf3c-image.png

                                      They also named a mid-year Hurricanes squad which included the below:

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                                      1. Salesa Seumagafagai (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                      2. Leon Tuiloma (Rathkeale College)
                                      3. Siale Lauaki (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                      4. Max Briant (Gisborne BHS)
                                      5. Maea Tema-Schimt (Scots College)
                                      6. Tino Savea (Lindisfarne College)
                                      7. Cooper Flanders (Hastings BHS)
                                      8. Gilgal Malasia (Napier BHS)
                                      9. Bradley Campbell (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                      10. Curtis Heaphy (Palmerston North BHS)
                                      11. Tony Solomona (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                      12. Anaru Paenga Morgan (St Paul’s Collegiate)
                                      13. Shaun O’Leary (Whanganui Collegiate)
                                      14. Kere Penitito (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                      15. Afa Moleli (Napier BHS)
                                      16. Vernon Bason (Feilding HS) Year 12
                                      17. Konradd Newland (Whanganui Collegiate) Year 12
                                      18. Nathaniel Hauiti (Gisborne BHS)
                                      19. AJ Malili Malo-Lauano (Feilding HS)
                                      20. Max Ratcliffe (Napier BHS) Year 12
                                      21. Keanu Kotuhi (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                      22. Jacob Waikari-Jones (Wellington College)
                                      23. Leo Gordan (Palmerston North BHS)
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                                      @canes4life That website uses player rating methods that is just as suspect as the Rugbypass ratings (not sure they use the same methods). I attach no value whatsover to the hstop ratings or predictions. He's also very secretive about it, which makes it even more dodgy.

                                      As you may have read in my comments on the Napier v Hastings Boys game, both teams had very good backrows. Ratcliffe is one of them, but I don't think he's the best of that lot. I don't know the years all these players are in; maybe he's the only year 12 of these loosies.

                                      Plenty of talent coming through in all top 4 four Hawke's Bay schools; yes, even St John's as a few great talents. Some have already played regularly for the HB Academy team. I just hope we can keep the best of them in the province.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @stargazer the hstop200 website mentions Max Ratcliffe (year 12) as being one of the schoolboys to watch over the next year. How did he get on?

                                        379c2d13-3746-4ed7-bc5b-a5e9270bdf3c-image.png

                                        They also named a mid-year Hurricanes squad which included the below:

                                        f0864818-10fb-4aee-bc8f-8daae6e39362-image.png

                                        1. Salesa Seumagafagai (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                        2. Leon Tuiloma (Rathkeale College)
                                        3. Siale Lauaki (St Patrick’s College, Town)
                                        4. Max Briant (Gisborne BHS)
                                        5. Maea Tema-Schimt (Scots College)
                                        6. Tino Savea (Lindisfarne College)
                                        7. Cooper Flanders (Hastings BHS)
                                        8. Gilgal Malasia (Napier BHS)
                                        9. Bradley Campbell (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                        10. Curtis Heaphy (Palmerston North BHS)
                                        11. Tony Solomona (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                        12. Anaru Paenga Morgan (St Paul’s Collegiate)
                                        13. Shaun O’Leary (Whanganui Collegiate)
                                        14. Kere Penitito (St John’s College, Hastings)
                                        15. Afa Moleli (Napier BHS)
                                        16. Vernon Bason (Feilding HS) Year 12
                                        17. Konradd Newland (Whanganui Collegiate) Year 12
                                        18. Nathaniel Hauiti (Gisborne BHS)
                                        19. AJ Malili Malo-Lauano (Feilding HS)
                                        20. Max Ratcliffe (Napier BHS) Year 12
                                        21. Keanu Kotuhi (St Patrick’s College, Silverstream)
                                        22. Jacob Waikari-Jones (Wellington College)
                                        23. Leo Gordan (Palmerston North BHS)
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                                        @canes4life When did the Hammetuer take up journalism? 1 HBHS player 🤣

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                                          Games on Sat 26 June 2021:

                                          CNI

                                          • Lindisfarne College v St John's (Hamilton) - 11.00am
                                          • Whanganui Collegiate v St John's College (Hastings) - 12.00pm


                                          Super 8

                                          • Hastings BHS 1st XV v Gisborne BHS 1st XV - 12.00pm (HBHS1) - livestream: https://sideline.live/play/14619

                                          • Hastings BHS 2nd XV v Gisborne BHS 2nd XV - 10.30am (HBHS2)

                                          • Hastings BHS U15 v Gisborne BHS U15 - 10.10am (HBHS3)

                                          • Hastings BHS U14 v Gisborne BHS U14 - 9.15am (HBHS3)

                                          • Tauranga Boys 1st XV v Napier BHS 1st XV - 12.00pm - livestream: https://sideline.live/play/14622

                                          • Tauranga Boys 2nd XV v Napier BHS 2nd XV - 10.30am


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