Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby
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Wow, this Manawatu ref is really doing everything to keep Silverstream in the game. Awarding them a penalty try because of a late tackle by a Hastings player, totally ignoring that that same player was tackled late only seconds before that. Also constantly re-setting the scrum instead of awarding Hastings penalties. They are totally dominating the scrum (not only the scrum, by the way).
HT: 10 - 10
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Hell yes, Hastings Boys have beaten Silverstream 37 - 10! And that's a score that flatters Silverstream.
Try scorers for the good guys: Joeli Rauca 2, Emil Crichton, Mefi Tupou, Mercedes Hodge, Latrell Ah Kiong
Ah Kiong only converted two tries and kicked one penalty goal.
Ah Kiong played very well, but he needs to work on his kicking. Flanders, Crichton and Goerke impressed from the forwards; Thompson-Dunn as always was a stand-out in the backs. He's a good leader and deserves to be the captain.
It was good to see them play for the full 70 minutes, despite being so far ahead.
I hope we don't get to see this ref anymore. He doesn't know how to deal with a dominant scrum and with mauls. He kept Silverstream in the game for too long. Thankfully it was against a much weaker opponent; I'd hate to have this ref against a strong opponent in a tight game.
Hastings will now play in the Hurricanes Final next week!
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Have been watching the other Hurricanes semi between Scots Coll and Palmy Boys.
It was 17 - 0 to Scots at half time. Palmy Boys came back to 17 - 21 with 10 minutes to go, only for Scots to score 5 minutes later (22 - 21). A few minutes later, PNBHS scored a penalty goal to make it 22 - 24 at full time.With Hastings ranking higher than Palmy Boys in the Super 8, surely they should play the Hurricanes final at home?
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Lindisfarne has reached the Hurricanes Boys Development Final after beating Hato Pāora 29 - 14 on Saturday.
In the Final, they'll play Hutt International Boys, who won their semi (v Rathkeale) by default.
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@Stargazer Presumably Development Grade means players from 2nd XVs or the better Under 15 or weight grade players?
@Higgins No, they're 1st XV teams, nominated by the Provincial Unions in the Hurricanes region, who are not in the running for the Hurricanes Boys 1XV or Hurricanes Co-Ed 1XV competitions. So by the looks of it, only Hawke's Bay, Wellington, Manawatu and Wairarapa nominated teams, unless there have been qualifying matches against schools from the other provinces that I have missed.
The purpose of this new Hurricanes Development Cup is to increase participation by secondary schools in the region.
I assume Lindisfarne was nominated because they were the best HB school in the CNI competition.
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@Higgins No, they're 1st XV teams, nominated by the Provincial Unions in the Hurricanes region, who are not in the running for the Hurricanes Boys 1XV or Hurricanes Co-Ed 1XV competitions. So by the looks of it, only Hawke's Bay, Wellington, Manawatu and Wairarapa nominated teams, unless there have been qualifying matches against schools from the other provinces that I have missed.
The purpose of this new Hurricanes Development Cup is to increase participation by secondary schools in the region.
I assume Lindisfarne was nominated because they were the best HB school in the CNI competition.
@Stargazer Thanks. Why don't they take the initiative and simply call it the Hurricanes B Grade as it is hardly encompassing the development of players at the qualifying schools in the region. You might have the results at your fingertips but didn't the 2nds from either NBHS or HBHS give Lindisfarne 1sts a decent match in the preseason (which seems to involve as many games as the actual competition season).
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@Stargazer Thanks. Why don't they take the initiative and simply call it the Hurricanes B Grade as it is hardly encompassing the development of players at the qualifying schools in the region. You might have the results at your fingertips but didn't the 2nds from either NBHS or HBHS give Lindisfarne 1sts a decent match in the preseason (which seems to involve as many games as the actual competition season).
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@Stargazer Thanks. Why don't they take the initiative and simply call it the Hurricanes B Grade as it is hardly encompassing the development of players at the qualifying schools in the region. You might have the results at your fingertips but didn't the 2nds from either NBHS or HBHS give Lindisfarne 1sts a decent match in the preseason (which seems to involve as many games as the actual competition season).
@Higgins said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
@Stargazer Thanks. Why don't they take the initiative and simply call it the Hurricanes B Grade as it is hardly encompassing the development of players at the qualifying schools in the region. You might have the results at your fingertips but didn't the 2nds from either NBHS or HBHS give Lindisfarne 1sts a decent match in the preseason (which seems to involve as many games as the actual competition season).
I think they took the initiative calling it the Development comp so as not to call it a B comp?
I was wondering whether the 2nd XVs of Hastings and Napier (and other Super 8 ) should be included but I think in the long run they'd start winning it too often and they already have Super 8 as a competitive comp.
Although, I assume Feilding is going to win this often in the short term.
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@Higgins said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
@Stargazer Thanks. Why don't they take the initiative and simply call it the Hurricanes B Grade as it is hardly encompassing the development of players at the qualifying schools in the region. You might have the results at your fingertips but didn't the 2nds from either NBHS or HBHS give Lindisfarne 1sts a decent match in the preseason (which seems to involve as many games as the actual competition season).
I think they took the initiative calling it the Development comp so as not to call it a B comp?
I was wondering whether the 2nd XVs of Hastings and Napier (and other Super 8 ) should be included but I think in the long run they'd start winning it too often and they already have Super 8 as a competitive comp.
Although, I assume Feilding is going to win this often in the short term.
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@Nepia Feilding doesn't qualify for this grade, because they're in the running for the Hurricanes Co-ed title.
@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
@Nepia Feilding doesn't qualify for this grade, because they're in the running for the Hurricanes Co-ed title.
Oh right, so it's a third comp in the region then?
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@Stargazer said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
@Nepia Feilding doesn't qualify for this grade, because they're in the running for the Hurricanes Co-ed title.
Oh right, so it's a third comp in the region then?
@Nepia There is a Hurricanes Boys, Hurricanes Boys Development, Hurricanes Co-ed and a Hurricanes Girls competition.
Upcoming finals:
Hurricanes Girls Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
St Mary’s College v ManukuraHurricanes Co-ed Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
Feilding HS v Aotea CollegeHurricanes Development Boys Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
Hutt International Boys v LindisfarneHurricanes Boys Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
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@Nepia There is a Hurricanes Boys, Hurricanes Boys Development, Hurricanes Co-ed and a Hurricanes Girls competition.
Upcoming finals:
Hurricanes Girls Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
St Mary’s College v ManukuraHurricanes Co-ed Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
Feilding HS v Aotea CollegeHurricanes Development Boys Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
Hutt International Boys v LindisfarneHurricanes Boys Final (Sat 31 August 2019 - Palmerston North)
Hastings Boys v Palmerston North Boys@Stargazer The Hurricanes Girls Competition is a bit of a closed shop considering that St. Marys are the only team that is able to field a team in it's own right thus becoming automatic qualifiers from the Wellington region (despite them getting absolutely hammered by Hutt Valley High in one game I attended), most of the other teams are combined ones with with schools combining to be able to field a full team. Pretty sure a number of the other matches St. Marys have played have been at less than 15 a side, either at the start or after injuries have taken their toll. They (St. Marys) may have played only about six or eight times all season with a lot of defaults not helping. Manukura look odds on to progress through to the Top 4 playoffs unless something very unexpected happens. It is also noted the PNBHS have jammied home advantage for their final!
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@Stargazer The Hurricanes Girls Competition is a bit of a closed shop considering that St. Marys are the only team that is able to field a team in it's own right thus becoming automatic qualifiers from the Wellington region (despite them getting absolutely hammered by Hutt Valley High in one game I attended), most of the other teams are combined ones with with schools combining to be able to field a full team. Pretty sure a number of the other matches St. Marys have played have been at less than 15 a side, either at the start or after injuries have taken their toll. They (St. Marys) may have played only about six or eight times all season with a lot of defaults not helping. Manukura look odds on to progress through to the Top 4 playoffs unless something very unexpected happens. It is also noted the PNBHS have jammied home advantage for their final!
@Higgins said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
It is also noted the PNBHS have jammied home advantage for their final!
In the Chiefs region the rule has been that any Top 4 playoff game would be played at the home venue of the team that didn't host the fixture of the earlier game between the teams. Hastings played PN at home in Rd 1 of the Super 8, so I assume the same rule applied.
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@Stargazer The Hurricanes Girls Competition is a bit of a closed shop considering that St. Marys are the only team that is able to field a team in it's own right thus becoming automatic qualifiers from the Wellington region (despite them getting absolutely hammered by Hutt Valley High in one game I attended), most of the other teams are combined ones with with schools combining to be able to field a full team. Pretty sure a number of the other matches St. Marys have played have been at less than 15 a side, either at the start or after injuries have taken their toll. They (St. Marys) may have played only about six or eight times all season with a lot of defaults not helping. Manukura look odds on to progress through to the Top 4 playoffs unless something very unexpected happens. It is also noted the PNBHS have jammied home advantage for their final!
@Higgins I assume you mean that the Wellington's qualifier in the Hurricanes girls comp is a closed shop? Manukura can field a full team and they had to beat Feilding HS Girls (43 - 7) and Hastings GHS (38 - 15) to reach the final.
Manukura is the Whanganui/Manawatu qualifying team; Hastings Girls the East Coast/Poverty Bay/Hawkes Bay qualifying team. I don't know whether Hastings Girls played a game against any East Coast/PB team to progress, for example, Gisborned Girls. The HBRU is terrible in giving info about rep teams, but even worse about school teams, even worse than worse about girls school teams.
Initially, St Mary's as the Wellington qualifying team was supposed to play a semi-final against a qualifying team from Wairarapa-Bush or Horowhenua-Kapiti, but I guess no team put their hand up to take on St Mary's.
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By the way, the Hawke's Bay Girls U18 School competition had 6 teams for the first time, this year, with 2 combined teams IIRC. Hastings Girls had their own, full squad. In previous years, there were only 4 teams from girls' schools, one of which often was Gisborne GHS.There was also for the first time, a Hawke's Bay U15 Girls School competition with 4 teams (1 combined team?).
So the girls' game is clearly growing, but change takes time. Manukura is a school with a specialised sports programme, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them dominate girls rugby for the next few years in the Hurricanes region, but I'd expect a school like Hastings Girls to become more competitive as well.
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@Higgins said in Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby:
It is also noted the PNBHS have jammied home advantage for their final!
In the Chiefs region the rule has been that any Top 4 playoff game would be played at the home venue of the team that didn't host the fixture of the earlier game between the teams. Hastings played PN at home in Rd 1 of the Super 8, so I assume the same rule applied.
@Bovidae I think they made an exception for the Hurricanes Boys Final last year, because both teams in the final were Hawke's Bay schools, so it made sense for the game to be played in Napier (McLean Park). But I don't think that this year's final taking place in Palmy has anything to do with where the Super 8 game was played, as all Hurricanes Finals will be played in Poo city.
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@Bovidae I think they made an exception for the Hurricanes Boys Final last year, because both teams in the final were Hawke's Bay schools, so it made sense for the game to be played in Napier (McLean Park). But I don't think that this year's final taking place in Palmy has anything to do with where the Super 8 game was played, as all Hurricanes Finals will be played in Poo city.
@Stargazer Can you post the link so we can watch the Hurricanes boys open final thanks?
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Hurricanes Boys Final:
Palmerston North Boys v Hastings Boys
2.40pm? - Massey Sport and Rec Centre, Palmerston NorthLIVE on Sky Sport 8 (ch 58) from 2.30pm
Hastings Boys 1st XV:
I will add the squad here, as soon as it has been published somewhere..
Hurricanes Boys Development Final:
Hutt International Boys v Lindisfarne
12.30pm - CET Arena, Field 4, Palmerston NorthNot livestreamed or televised
Lindisfarne 1st XV:
1 Ben Thomassen, 2. Sam Horsefield, 3. Georges Vea, 4. Steve Black, 5. Kurtis Arlidge, 6. Kings Tupuola, 7. Zinny Ropitini, 8. Tino Savea, 9. George Charteris, 10. George Twigley (C), 11. James Buckeridge, 12. Charlie Dods, 13. Jordy Douglas (VC), 14. Moeki Sokotaua, 15. Harry Mowat
Reserves: 16. Felix Paul, 17. Jono Kilsby, 18. Lanson Randell, 19. Fred Mowat, 20. Ben Gibbs, 21. Grayson Hesketh, -
Hastings Boys 1st XV to play Palmy Boys:
15 Mercedes Hodge, 14 Joeli Rauca, 13 Andrew Hayward, 12 Jordan Thompson-Dunn (co-captain), 11 Mefi Tupou, 10 Latrell Ah Kiong, 9 Phillip King-Panapa, 8 Cooper Flanders, 7 Daemon Brough, 6 Connor Wadley (co-captain), 5 Julian Goerke, 4 Emil Crichton, 3 Mosese Fineanganofo, 2 Jacob Dorward, 1 Tini Nu'u.
Substitutes: Forwards, 16 Manahi Goulton, 17 Josh Folau, 18 Jeremiah Tuiatua, 19 Fraser Taurima-Heperi, 20 Donovan Godinet. Backs, 21 Charlie Varcoe, 22 Elijah Mataira.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12263509
