Aussie Community Rugby
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
doesnt help that the "insurance" you get isnt comprehensive....like you really need private health on top as surgery isn't covered for example...so some at least are "im already covered"....some think medicare is enough...
Really? The insurance we get assumes you have Medicare - so all the Fijian blokes are fucked - and is generally pretty good, if a bit slow. It isn't grandiose enough to cover income etc. which is why so many clubs have a player serious injury fund.
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
have so many rock up on sat and not say anything until i went to lodge my list and couldnt name them....
The best ones are the guys who want to do it on someone else's phone. Either they can't be arsed downloading the app, or want someone to do it for them, or have no data left on their plan because they're manchildren who somehow are allowed to drive cars etc.
ok, might as well have a vent...something thats really annoying me but most people brush off...jerseys....we get one new set each year that go to the 1's and the old ones get handed down a grade....except jerseys go missing...players take a little souvenir...but it just makes life more difficult when naming a full team....
most recently we found someone has pinched a whole set (last years 3s) they got their own sponsor so got new jerseys last year...they were locked up...and no gone@NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
doesnt help that the "insurance" you get isnt comprehensive....like you really need private health on top as surgery isn't covered for example...so some at least are "im already covered"....some think medicare is enough...
Really? The insurance we get assumes you have Medicare - so all the Fijian blokes are fucked - and is generally pretty good, if a bit slow. It isn't grandiose enough to cover income etc. which is why so many clubs have a player serious injury fund.
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
have so many rock up on sat and not say anything until i went to lodge my list and couldnt name them....
The best ones are the guys who want to do it on someone else's phone. Either they can't be arsed downloading the app, or want someone to do it for them, or have no data left on their plan because they're manchildren who somehow are allowed to drive cars etc.
i would say 2/3 of our club are from overseas so i just tell them to make sire they have some sort of other insurance
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ok, might as well have a vent...something thats really annoying me but most people brush off...jerseys....we get one new set each year that go to the 1's and the old ones get handed down a grade....except jerseys go missing...players take a little souvenir...but it just makes life more difficult when naming a full team....
most recently we found someone has pinched a whole set (last years 3s) they got their own sponsor so got new jerseys last year...they were locked up...and no gone@NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
doesnt help that the "insurance" you get isnt comprehensive....like you really need private health on top as surgery isn't covered for example...so some at least are "im already covered"....some think medicare is enough...
Really? The insurance we get assumes you have Medicare - so all the Fijian blokes are fucked - and is generally pretty good, if a bit slow. It isn't grandiose enough to cover income etc. which is why so many clubs have a player serious injury fund.
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
have so many rock up on sat and not say anything until i went to lodge my list and couldnt name them....
The best ones are the guys who want to do it on someone else's phone. Either they can't be arsed downloading the app, or want someone to do it for them, or have no data left on their plan because they're manchildren who somehow are allowed to drive cars etc.
i would say 2/3 of our club are from overseas so i just tell them to make sire they have some sort of other insurance
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
ok, might as well have a vent...something thats really annoying me but most people brush off...jerseys....we get one new set each year that go to the 1's and the old ones get handed down a grade....except jerseys go missing...players take a little souvenir...but it just makes life more difficult when naming a full team....
most recently we found someone has pinched a whole set (last years 3s) they got their own sponsor so got new jerseys last year...they were locked up...and no goneThat is sadly believable. Some guys you can't leave near anything without nailing it (or them) down.
And they won't dob each other in, either. Nah they'll lie and cheat and steal from the club, but "bro code"
And the club just has to figure it out like they're drowning in money.This close to season that puts a spanner in the works.
I think next year we have to up our fees and make everyone pay up front.
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New kit arrived yesterday…pretty unknown brand but actually impressed, the jersey is better than we got from blk
i also like the fact that all the bags the gear came in, individually wrapped...were composable...so you dont feel quite as bad about the huge pile of packaging you throw out
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@NTA side note, a set of jerseys from S-Trend was less than $1200 ($47.50 each) and apparently we got our 1's kit (25 jerseys) for free because we ordered all the other kit through them
i'm quite impressed, grip pattern on the chest, rubber around the hem and they set up an on line store for people to buy supports gear
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Round 1 down, clean sweep in the Dewer shield games, three tight games but good start!
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@NTA side note, a set of jerseys from S-Trend was less than $1200 ($47.50 each) and apparently we got our 1's kit (25 jerseys) for free because we ordered all the other kit through them
i'm quite impressed, grip pattern on the chest, rubber around the hem and they set up an on line store for people to buy supports gear
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
@NTA side note, a set of jerseys from S-Trend was less than $1200 ($47.50 each) and apparently we got our 1's kit (25 jerseys) for free because we ordered all the other kit through them
i'm quite impressed, grip pattern on the chest, rubber around the hem and they set up an on line store for people to buy supports gear
That's actually pretty good - I struggle to get anyone to buy supporters kit but I know Sinalli (local guy) have a capability as they supply bigger clubs than us.
Our current edition jerseys are around the same price for the "pro" cut which is 4 way stretch. No grip panels on those but I think they're an option.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
@NTA side note, a set of jerseys from S-Trend was less than $1200 ($47.50 each) and apparently we got our 1's kit (25 jerseys) for free because we ordered all the other kit through them
i'm quite impressed, grip pattern on the chest, rubber around the hem and they set up an on line store for people to buy supports gear
That's actually pretty good - I struggle to get anyone to buy supporters kit but I know Sinalli (local guy) have a capability as they supply bigger clubs than us.
Our current edition jerseys are around the same price for the "pro" cut which is 4 way stretch. No grip panels on those but I think they're an option.
@NTA we had a good session at our jersey presentation night last week before round one, set up a shop and sold a good amount of supports gear or training gear for guys that have joined late, the big ones are caps (havent had them for years), casual/training hoodie and a sideline jackets
jerseys have had their first games/wash and came out ok...good start
met the guy from S-trend at the presentation too, seemed good bloke
https://www.shop.s-trend.com.au/collections/powerhouse-rugby-men
check out our shop for the kinds of stuff they do
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Just got notice that the $7800 in NSW Sport Grants we applied for was not successful
Ungood. Club budgeted about $20k for this year for 2 Grades after our Colts didn't get up.
$2500 = 2 x set of jerseys
$2000 = 2 x RA "Participation Fee"
$1100 = 2 x Subbies team registration
$5400 = 2 x team insurance
$3000 = physio
$2000 = consumables - tape, deep heat, match balls etc
$1500 = sundry costs.Got about $11k in sponsorship and we'll do another $15k-$20k in raffles but hardly ideal with a lot of those bills landing now.
Also wanted to order more merch but can't afford it unless I organise a preorder which is a massive pain in the arse
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Just got notice that the $7800 in NSW Sport Grants we applied for was not successful
Ungood. Club budgeted about $20k for this year for 2 Grades after our Colts didn't get up.
$2500 = 2 x set of jerseys
$2000 = 2 x RA "Participation Fee"
$1100 = 2 x Subbies team registration
$5400 = 2 x team insurance
$3000 = physio
$2000 = consumables - tape, deep heat, match balls etc
$1500 = sundry costs.Got about $11k in sponsorship and we'll do another $15k-$20k in raffles but hardly ideal with a lot of those bills landing now.
Also wanted to order more merch but can't afford it unless I organise a preorder which is a massive pain in the arse
@NTA yeah, raffles and stuff getting you money in the long run doesnt help you pay the bills now
im not sure on our cost too that detail as so far have avoided the committee proper, we have over 100 registered players and about 140 of the registration goes to the club so thats $15000 too get the ball running i guess
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If I got the full $150 from every player on signup I'd have about $7500 which would go a long way. Currently about a third of that.
I think next year we bite the bullet and force payment on registration through the app.
@NTA currently guys can register without paying? yeah, you have too, all of us coaches/managers have "sponsored" someone, see who made it to being selected for the first squad without registering and then hit them up to see if they had money issues...its all unofficial though as you have the guys that have been paid before and would take it if they could even if they dont need it...in general though its no no pay no register no play
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RugbyXplorer is configured by most senior clubs in Sydney to be $0.
We pay by the grade for insurance, comp registration, and RA Participation Fee. Not by player.
@NTA wow, less of a road block to guys playing but club take a lot on your shoulders
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@NTA and legit that might be a contributing factor into our club comp being so much smaller (amoungst all the historic stuff)
@Kiwiwomble always tricky to determine if financial investment = commitment for some of these guys.
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Also worth noting: new guys to the club pay straight away. They're used to it from other sports.
The regulars are the tough ones to get. Particularly those who cry poor but can be seen eating out on FB regularly.
@NTA or the ones that suddenly find some cash when in the pub after the game
we had another new guy rock up last night, he's got a hard road if he wants to play above the 4th grade just because he hasn't done the preseason...but he was all, i'll registers tomorrow and put in a gear order
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To save laundry costs we subsidised the players purchasing their own jerseys, with whatever numbers/ letters they wanted on the back.
