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    Judiciary outcome:

    1. The guy who got the red card in the match was given a caution. Good. It was a shit decision to start with and only slightly high in terms of tackle. A fucking moron could have seen that - except the ref we had was special.

    2. The first guy to get cited for a Code of Conduct breach post-match got 2 weeks. Big Fijian guy who looks intimidating at the best of times, so that's probably a win.

    3. Last guy is TBC - the ref claims he called him a name after the game. We maintain he was calling someone else a name and that it was misconstrued.

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      TBH after all that - and a fluffybunny of a week being sick and trying to put together this shit - I think we're winning.

      However it boiled my fucking piss when one of the lawyer types sitting on the Judiciary for the Fijian bloke picked up the stat dec I printed out and said to him "Are these your words?"

      Oh hello casual racism. Took you long enough... like 60 seconds

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

        And I'm going into judiciary tonight because a ref from the eastern suburbs decided to fuck us 3 different ways two weeks ago.

        Why do I bother?

        two weeks ago? doesnt have to be done the same week? and a tuesday? clash with training?

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

        @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

        And I'm going into judiciary tonight because a ref from the eastern suburbs decided to fuck us 3 different ways two weeks ago.

        Why do I bother?

        two weeks ago? doesnt have to be done the same week? and a tuesday? clash with training?

        Ah that's why they moved it: Origin + Brumbies/Lions

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          bit of a shit weekend

          started off with no one putting their hand up to be the ground marshal so went down early to fill in at least until the 1st grade game

          we have the new coach this year, started as one of the 2nd grade coaches but had a bit of a falling out and so moved down to help 3rd grade, hes also helped cover our colts games when needed. he was new this year so have tried to explain how things work and in general hes been dismissive. ive asked if he can do the rugby explorer app a couple of times (colts and 3rd grade) and both times "thats not my job, im just hear to coach" before actually turning his back and walking away

          Ive also had to tell him a few times he cant go under the posts after a try is scored and coach during the game, or run water and coach....he does it anyway and brushes me off

          so....sat, already running around sorting things and so a bit flustered, 3's are running out and hes walking behind them with a ball...'is that your match ball?"....looks at it like its the first time..."nah"....."where is your matchball?"....i dont know, thats not my job".....FFS....i run and get them a couple of balls

          during the game, he goes down and coaches under the posts....the 4th offical reminds me hes not allowed....i agree and tell him again...brushed off...4th offical says he make a note in his match report...

          after the game he comes up to me...starts explain "hes new"...."he doesnt know how thing worK"....not expecting me to completely unload on him...cue him going and having a winge to the director of rugby about people having in in for him

          we also went on to lose 1s with a penalty as the final play of the game...and after the final whistle a group of bloke start chanting "fuck the House"...."fuck this and thats "...proper agressive....so as the bloody ground marshal i have to go and tell them they won, go and celebrate rather than abusing people after the game....to be met with "we dont care"..."what you going to do"....good point, not much i can do other than that

          all in all just a bit shit

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          @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

          bit of a shit weekend

          started off with no one putting their hand up to be the ground marshal so went down early to fill in at least until the 1st grade game

          we have the new coach this year, started as one of the 2nd grade coaches but had a bit of a falling out and so moved down to help 3rd grade, hes also helped cover our colts games when needed. he was new this year so have tried to explain how things work and in general hes been dismissive. ive asked if he can do the rugby explorer app a couple of times (colts and 3rd grade) and both times "thats not my job, im just hear to coach" before actually turning his back and walking away

          Ive also had to tell him a few times he cant go under the posts after a try is scored and coach during the game, or run water and coach....he does it anyway and brushes me off

          so....sat, already running around sorting things and so a bit flustered, 3's are running out and hes walking behind them with a ball...'is that your match ball?"....looks at it like its the first time..."nah"....."where is your matchball?"....i dont know, thats not my job".....FFS....i run and get them a couple of balls

          during the game, he goes down and coaches under the posts....the 4th offical reminds me hes not allowed....i agree and tell him again...brushed off...4th offical says he make a note in his match report...

          after the game he comes up to me...starts explain "hes new"...."he doesnt know how thing worK"....not expecting me to completely unload on him...cue him going and having a winge to the director of rugby about people having in in for him

          we also went on to lose 1s with a penalty as the final play of the game...and after the final whistle a group of bloke start chanting "fuck the House"...."fuck this and thats "...proper agressive....so as the bloody ground marshal i have to go and tell them they won, go and celebrate rather than abusing people after the game....to be met with "we dont care"..."what you going to do"....good point, not much i can do other than that

          all in all just a bit shit

          and now this coach has said he needs to "step back"...new jobs or something, this weekend will be his last game, wasn't there weekend just gone, said he was sick...cant help but feel ive scared him off so feel a bit shit, we need coaches

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

            bit of a shit weekend

            started off with no one putting their hand up to be the ground marshal so went down early to fill in at least until the 1st grade game

            we have the new coach this year, started as one of the 2nd grade coaches but had a bit of a falling out and so moved down to help 3rd grade, hes also helped cover our colts games when needed. he was new this year so have tried to explain how things work and in general hes been dismissive. ive asked if he can do the rugby explorer app a couple of times (colts and 3rd grade) and both times "thats not my job, im just hear to coach" before actually turning his back and walking away

            Ive also had to tell him a few times he cant go under the posts after a try is scored and coach during the game, or run water and coach....he does it anyway and brushes me off

            so....sat, already running around sorting things and so a bit flustered, 3's are running out and hes walking behind them with a ball...'is that your match ball?"....looks at it like its the first time..."nah"....."where is your matchball?"....i dont know, thats not my job".....FFS....i run and get them a couple of balls

            during the game, he goes down and coaches under the posts....the 4th offical reminds me hes not allowed....i agree and tell him again...brushed off...4th offical says he make a note in his match report...

            after the game he comes up to me...starts explain "hes new"...."he doesnt know how thing worK"....not expecting me to completely unload on him...cue him going and having a winge to the director of rugby about people having in in for him

            we also went on to lose 1s with a penalty as the final play of the game...and after the final whistle a group of bloke start chanting "fuck the House"...."fuck this and thats "...proper agressive....so as the bloody ground marshal i have to go and tell them they won, go and celebrate rather than abusing people after the game....to be met with "we dont care"..."what you going to do"....good point, not much i can do other than that

            all in all just a bit shit

            and now this coach has said he needs to "step back"...new jobs or something, this weekend will be his last game, wasn't there weekend just gone, said he was sick...cant help but feel ive scared him off so feel a bit shit, we need coaches

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

            and now this coach has said he needs to "step back"...new jobs or something, this weekend will be his last game, wasn't there weekend just gone, said he was sick...cant help but feel ive scared him off so feel a bit shit, we need coaches

            That's the sad truth - volunteers or even paid coaches aren't just lying around.

            Our First Grade coach is a lawyer (but wasn't always - swapped careers later in life) and can get fired up as per his performance at the Judiciary last night. :grimacing_face:

            He's had a couple of warnings via ref reports - nothing personal or abusive.

            Bloke from another club, backed by a very large sports organisation including a licenced venue, said "just put together a package and get someone new". Yeah sure mate. I don't even have $2k lying around to just pay someone. You've got pokies and old boys living on the water in Sydney!

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              @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

              and now this coach has said he needs to "step back"...new jobs or something, this weekend will be his last game, wasn't there weekend just gone, said he was sick...cant help but feel ive scared him off so feel a bit shit, we need coaches

              That's the sad truth - volunteers or even paid coaches aren't just lying around.

              Our First Grade coach is a lawyer (but wasn't always - swapped careers later in life) and can get fired up as per his performance at the Judiciary last night. :grimacing_face:

              He's had a couple of warnings via ref reports - nothing personal or abusive.

              Bloke from another club, backed by a very large sports organisation including a licenced venue, said "just put together a package and get someone new". Yeah sure mate. I don't even have $2k lying around to just pay someone. You've got pokies and old boys living on the water in Sydney!

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              @NTA decided to eat some humble pie and flicked him a message to apologise....would rather have someone who annoys me that no one, at least given him the option to come back with "new job didn't take as much time as i thought" if he wants

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @NTA decided to eat some humble pie and flicked him a message to apologise....would rather have someone who annoys me that no one, at least given him the option to come back with "new job didn't take as much time as i thought" if he wants

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                @NTA decided to eat some humble pie and flicked him a message to apologise....would rather have someone who annoys me that no one, at least given him the option to come back with "new job didn't take as much time as i thought" if he wants

                Nothing wrong with being the bigger man.

                We had one of our Life Members get antsy with the players on the day we got that red card and had the other fallout. Parading around with the "I'm a Life Member and Major Sponsor of this club - he can't speak to me like that!" which is unhelpful.

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                  About 40 players out on the weekend. Had to forfeit 2s.
                  Fourteen of them front row.

                  So guess who played a full game* at tight head prop for first grade? This dumb fuck...

                  The guy opposite me was half my age and twice my size, but I managed to hold him off mostly thanks to my Fijian second rower and bringing the big bastard down low where he was very uncomfortable. I reckon our scrum gave away about 200kg.

                  We lost 76 to 5 but scored the last try.

                  *The ref - who I know - mercifully called it off with 6 to go

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                    About 40 players out on the weekend. Had to forfeit 2s.
                    Fourteen of them front row.

                    So guess who played a full game* at tight head prop for first grade? This dumb fuck...

                    The guy opposite me was half my age and twice my size, but I managed to hold him off mostly thanks to my Fijian second rower and bringing the big bastard down low where he was very uncomfortable. I reckon our scrum gave away about 200kg.

                    We lost 76 to 5 but scored the last try.

                    *The ref - who I know - mercifully called it off with 6 to go

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                    @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                    About 40 players out on the weekend. Had to forfeit 2s.
                    Fourteen of them front row.

                    So guess who played a full game* at tight head prop for first grade? This dumb fuck...

                    The guy opposite me was half my age and twice my size, but I managed to hold him off mostly thanks to my Fijian second rower and bringing the big bastard down low where he was very uncomfortable. I reckon our scrum gave away about 200kg.

                    We lost 76 to 5 but scored the last try.

                    *The ref - who I know - mercifully called it off with 6 to go

                    #clublegend

                    bit of drama around melbourne, one club has got some success on the back of...to be delecate....a direct and uncompromising style....but it has become a thing that players would rather forfeit and chip in for the fine than play them and get injured (jobs, family etc)....thts how bad its got, almost gauanteed if you play these guys someone will get a season ender

                    two weeks in a row they have had their first grade called of 20mins early as the score have either blown out (+100 - 0 or the other team had too many injuries)....but they now scream fowl about the nasty rumours and accusations....and that they havent been able to rake up more points

                    its wild, two teams have dropped out of 3rd grade and one of those might even drop out of second grade

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                      Funniest thing - we're playing white boys this weekend and everyone who had the flu or was otherwise sick last week against the big Pasifika club is now available...

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                        Funniest thing - we're playing white boys this weekend and everyone who had the flu or was otherwise sick last week against the big Pasifika club is now available...

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                        @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                        Funniest thing - we're playing white boys this weekend and everyone who had the flu or was otherwise sick last week against the big Pasifika club is now available...

                        ...funny that.....

                        anyway, tops of the table clash friday night....nervous...excited....

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                          Funniest thing - we're playing white boys this weekend and everyone who had the flu or was otherwise sick last week against the big Pasifika club is now available...

                          ...funny that.....

                          anyway, tops of the table clash friday night....nervous...excited....

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                          @Kiwiwomble as the coach said to me just now on the phone: call the Health Department - we've got a pandemic of 1-day man flu going on.

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                            About 40 players out on the weekend. Had to forfeit 2s.
                            Fourteen of them front row.

                            So guess who played a full game* at tight head prop for first grade? This dumb fuck...

                            The guy opposite me was half my age and twice my size, but I managed to hold him off mostly thanks to my Fijian second rower and bringing the big bastard down low where he was very uncomfortable. I reckon our scrum gave away about 200kg.

                            We lost 76 to 5 but scored the last try.

                            *The ref - who I know - mercifully called it off with 6 to go

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                            @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                            About 40 players out on the weekend. Had to forfeit 2s.
                            Fourteen of them front row.

                            So guess who played a full game* at tight head prop for first grade? This dumb fuck...

                            The guy opposite me was half my age and twice my size, but I managed to hold him off mostly thanks to my Fijian second rower and bringing the big bastard down low where he was very uncomfortable. I reckon our scrum gave away about 200kg.

                            We lost 76 to 5 but scored the last try.

                            *The ref - who I know - mercifully called it off with 6 to go

                            Last try wins.

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                              In Sydney Rugby this week:

                              7 Matches forfeited across Womens, Premier, and Subbies
                              Another 8 games in Subbies alone don't have referees.
                              In the meantime, there are 18 schools games that are getting officials appointed.

                              And people wonder why I keep saying schools are fucking the game up.

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                                Related: I might be refereeing a game this weekend and not playing. FFS.

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                                  Related: I might be refereeing a game this weekend and not playing. FFS.

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                                  @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                                  Related: I might be refereeing a game this weekend and not playing. FFS.

                                  I'm definitely refereeing a game this weekend

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                                    I never really got this thread, TBH.

                                    And then I volunteered at my son’s cricket club. He’s decent, but will peak at prob club level.

                                    And thus, I love being properly involved. Reading through this is so relatable in so many ways. Surrey cricket gets so much right, but the players parents have so little idea about how much small decisions, on their part, fuck everything up.

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                                      I never really got this thread, TBH.

                                      And then I volunteered at my son’s cricket club. He’s decent, but will peak at prob club level.

                                      And thus, I love being properly involved. Reading through this is so relatable in so many ways. Surrey cricket gets so much right, but the players parents have so little idea about how much small decisions, on their part, fuck everything up.

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                                      @MajorRage there are parents who fuck it up for everyone.

                                      For all the challenges of running a senior Rugby club, I would take it over running kids sport of any kind, because the egos your dealing with are far worse.

                                      Good on you for getting involved. My Dad was the coach, bus driver, and manager for my junior cricket out in the country, and while it had friction occasionally it was a great experience, looking back.

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                                        One for you @NTA https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/articles/cy0qg92de8vo

                                        "In my experience, from what I see day to day, Australian rugby union is in fantastic health, when you are on the ground here and you experience the true reality of the [size of the] AFL and rugby league," he tells Rugby Union Weekly.

                                        "The club game here is in rude health. You just have these two other sports that are thicker in the blood [of the Australian sporting public].

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                                          One for you @NTA https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/articles/cy0qg92de8vo

                                          "In my experience, from what I see day to day, Australian rugby union is in fantastic health, when you are on the ground here and you experience the true reality of the [size of the] AFL and rugby league," he tells Rugby Union Weekly.

                                          "The club game here is in rude health. You just have these two other sports that are thicker in the blood [of the Australian sporting public].

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                                          @MajorRage once you take NRL and AFL into account, sure.

                                          The Brisbane club scene isn't actually too bad - at Premier level. There is basically nothing below it of course, because QLD Subbies is a Friday night comp that is practically dead.

                                          And this is the issue: people only see the green grass in their backyard, and ignore the neighbours' dusty wastelands.

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