All Blacks XV 2024
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https://archive.is/9ZOQQ#selection-1829.0-1853.176
Otago and Highlanders lock Fabian Holland is eligible for All Blacks or All Blacks XV selection with immediate effect, the Sunday Star-Times can reveal.
Holland, the Netherlands-born giant who only turns 22 next week, moved to New Zealand as a 16-year-old and has risen through the ranks at speed.
He was not expected to become eligible for the All Blacks until late 2025, but a World Rugby eligibility change that kicked in on August 1 has dramatically changed the picture.
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@frugby any knowledge of any of the other Otago based players?
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@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
And don’t say lineout throwing Aumua has been unreliable at that this year,
And yellow cards Aumua has been pinged for a lot of yellow cards in the past for bad tackle technique.@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
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@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.Plummer was poor in Npc
Bell was good in the chances they had.
I would still try Plummer as well. -
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
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Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
When is this squad being named?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
When is this squad being named?
@Canes4life Tomorrow.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.Plummer was poor in Npc
Bell was good in the chances they had.
I would still try Plummer as well.@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.
LOL. What a handy excuse since the players couldn't possibly be responsible for their own performances.
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Walker-Leaware must be injured too as he hasn't played in a while. I still think they'll select Gallagher (not my choice).
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Walker-Leaware must be injured too as he hasn't played in a while. I still think they'll select Gallagher (not my choice).
That's a pity - IWL got called into the ABs earlier, so if he's fit he should be a lock (haha). The other two should be bolted on as well - a bit of a step back to whomever is next.
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Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
For purposes of practice it would make more sense to take 5 props and three locks.
Also, availability of AB back up allows two halfbacks.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
For purposes of practice it would make more sense to take 5 props and three locks.
Also, availability of AB back up allows two halfbacks.
@pakman I just figure you need the prop cover in case someone tears a calf in warm-up - though probably there's guys who can play both sides in a pinch.
I've basically picked my match day 23 and then spares - two props, a hooker, a halfback + an extra loose forward and an extra outside back. I'm a bit light at fullback if ENS doesn't get picked, but I couldn't leave Timoci out!
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@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.
LOL. What a handy excuse since the players couldn't possibly be responsible for their own performances.
@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
There is no one reliable in the squad to replace him so there is zero pressure.
That is unknown until Bell gets chances how do you know.
We could look at his performances in SR...
He may step up the Crusaders enviroment wasn’t a good one to perform in this season.
LOL. What a handy excuse since the players couldn't possibly be responsible for their own performances.
I am glad you liked it.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Here's a wild crack at the squad of 29. Some will doubtless be wrong - probably even picking some injured or ineligible.
6 props: Bower, Numia, Ross, Renata, Dyer, O'Neill (a captain's call for McMillan - seems like less options at tighthead)
3 hookers: Riccitelli, Slater, McAlister (maybe Taylor)
3 Locks: Lord, Holland, Walker-Leaware
5 Loose forwards: Suafoa, Grace, Lakai, Sotutu, Lio-Willie
3 halfbacks: Hotham, Christie, Fakatava
2 First fives: Plummer, Jacomb
3 Midfielders: Higgins, Rona, Tupaea
4 Outsides: Narawa, Lam, Tavatavanawai*, Fihaki
*possibly injured - maybe Nanai-Seturo, but he may be injured as well?
For purposes of practice it would make more sense to take 5 props and three locks.
Also, availability of AB back up allows two halfbacks.
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@pakman Have you got some thoughts on props?
Seems like quite a lot of options at loosehead - e.g. Norris and Rakete-Stones - maybe even Brewis - additional options - but, a bit of a struggle for tightheads.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@pakman Have you got some thoughts on props?
Seems like quite a lot of options at loosehead - e.g. Norris and Rakete-Stones - maybe even Brewis - additional options - but, a bit of a struggle for tightheads.
I’d say loosehead ranking likely to be Bower, Numia, Ross in that order.
TH tricker. I thought Renata was excellent for Blues, scrummaging a step up from previously. Dyer seemed to be top TH at Chiefs and solid. Thought the Ta$man TH was very solid against Lions, but may be contracted elsewhere. Rakete-Stones and Tevita Mafileo can play both sides
