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    SimonAdd
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    Great post, agree with all of that Nick. England's defence looked stretched by the Aussie pace, we're just not used to playing against anything like it. A few more balls go to hand from Aus and they could still have won. Although I thought we looked more comfortable when Burrell went off; he's just not a smart defender.<br><br>
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      <p>I really enjoyed that game.  It was a fantastic fightback from England.  It's English forward vs Aussie backs, except the English backs are just a bit better than the Aussie forwards.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Hopefully, Aussie win next week, so we can get a decider.</p>

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        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="586668" data-time="1465647252">
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        <p>Goal kicking was also disappointing from Foley - he makes those kicks, we're only 5 down with a quarter to go.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Still, England's backs can't defend well against pace or width, and I don't reckon the Pommy guy (Burrell?) would have brought Foley down for that try, though we'll never know because Arnold is a knob. Poor debut from him.</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>Every time Foley misses a kick it annoys me.  🙂  </p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>It annoys me when he gets them too.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Yeah - Folau was cutting them open with ease in the final quarter. Cheika's big challenge is to get more physicality out of his forward pack. They got bullied through the middle of the match.</p>

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          Derm McCrum
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          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pukunui" data-cid="586662" data-time="1465646582"><p>
          I thought the kick for goal at the end was the right decision. You have a try and penalty on your to do list. Tick one off quickly with an easy shot and back yourself to hold the ball and get a try. Especially now that you can kick for the corner after time is up.</p></blockquote><br>
          Not in the June series. Only the new maul Law applies. Everything else starts on July 1.

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            profitius
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            <p>Aus started like a train but somehow were losing after 30 min and you could see Englands confidence growing. Farrells kicking was the difference. </p>

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              NTA
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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SimonAdd" data-cid="586669" data-time="1465647543">
              <div>
              <p>Great post, agree with all of that Nick. England's defence looked stretched by the Aussie pace, we're just not used to playing against anything like it. A few more balls go to hand from Aus and they could still have won. Although I thought we looked more comfortable when Burrell went off; he's just not a smart defender.<br><br>
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              <p> </p>
              <p>Yeah that penalty against Arnold for obstruction was borderline I thought - Farrell was completely out of it, and Burrell would have had to shatter the laws of physics to get there.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>But these are the breaks.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Like the scrum - if Poite is the ref, you do this a couple of times:</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>[attachment=2034:cole.jpg]</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>And then completely change direction.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Props are smart. Refs are not.</p>

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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="profitius" data-cid="586674" data-time="1465647959">
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                <p>Aus started like a train but somehow were losing after 30 min and you could see Englands confidence growing. Farrells kicking was the difference. </p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>We had something like 65% of possession and most of the territory in the first quarter. England just needed some ball.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>The lesson is: you can't win without it.</p>

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                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="586673" data-time="1465647847"><p>
                  Not in the June series. Only the new maul Law applies. Everything else starts on July 1.</p></blockquote>
                  <br>
                  Didn't realise that.

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                    NTA
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                    <p>And while the penalty count was bad for us - discipline etc - the bigger factor is WHERE we gave those penalties away. In our half.</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Whereas, from my earlier post: when we got into the red zone England were confident in their line speed and didn't attack the ruck. We were laser-focused on upsetting their ball, and doing that anywhere inside your 40 metres is going to result in issues.</p>

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                      nostrildamus
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                      #332

                      well done England and Catogrande!

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                        mariner4life
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                        #333

                        Good test, 2 very different game plans. Given what I saw tonight i still expect Australia to win the series.

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                          SimonAdd
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                          It was the best game I've seen Cole play for a long time. I thought he had stagnated as a player and was just treading water until a younger guy put his hand up. But he was very good today; very smart, experienced scrummaging, got over the ball a couple of times like he used to and even carried to good effect once or twice.<br><br>
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                            #335

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="586681" data-time="1465648437">
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                            <p>And while the penalty count was bad for us - discipline etc - the bigger factor is WHERE we gave those penalties away. In our half.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Whereas, from my earlier post: when we got into the red zone England were confident in their line speed and didn't attack the ruck. We were laser-focused on upsetting their ball, and doing that anywhere inside your 40 metres is going to result in issues.</p>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Yeah Nick, agree. I was a little surprised at how hard Hooper and Pocock for example went for the ball in those 50/50 situations whilst in the England half. It resulted in a rather expensive night with Farrell having a Johnny W-like performance</p>

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                              NTA
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                              #336

                              <p>My team for next week wouldn't change too much - Kepu for Holmes, Horwill for Simmons (who I assume is injured).</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Maybe Lilo for Kerevi, depending on what Cheika wants.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Pocock and Horne's head knocks will need monitoring.</p>

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                                Catogrande
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                                <p>Very pleased with that - unsurprisingly. A win in Aus for us is rare and to put more points on them than the 2003 team is great too. However at no time did I feel comfortable until we got the turnover in the last minute. The try after that was just window dressing. Aus looked so bloody dangerous and every time Folau got the ball in anything that looked like space I was thinking about how to empty my colostomy bag.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>A big call from Mr Percentage to take of Burrell but our defensive pattern looked better straight away.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Nathan Grey remains a complete cock.</p>

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                                  Chris B.
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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="586693" data-time="1465650036">
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Nathan Grey remains a complete cock.</p>
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>He should be banned from the sideline for a week for that effort.</p>

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                                    Rancid Schnitzel
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                                    Just got back from game. Was one of the better ones I've seen at Suncorp. It seemed that Aus were killing them in the backs but that England were better in the forwards. England also played much much smarter rugby. The 2nd test should be a cracker.<br><br>
                                    Obviously I dislike the guy so take this with a grain of salt, but I was surprised at how little Pocock actually does. He spends a shit load of time hanging round the midfield running interference, but doesn't do much else. Obviously his principal skill is of massive value, but if he's stopped from pilfering he's a bit of a passenger.

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                                      NTA
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                                      <p>Interesting - Eddie front the presser by himself.</p>

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                                        Mick Gold Coast QLD
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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="586697" data-time="1465650314">
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                                        <p>Just got back from game. Was one of the better ones I've seen at Suncorp. It seemed that Aus were killing them in the backs but that England were better in the forwards. England also played much much smarter rugby. The 2nd test should be a cracker.<br><br>
                                        Obviously I dislike the guy so take this with a grain of salt, but <strong>I was surprised at how little Pocock actually does</strong>. He spends a shit load of time hanging round the midfield running interference, but doesn't do much else. Obviously his principal skill is of massive value, but if he's stopped from pilfering he's a bit of a passenger.</p>
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                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);">I've long wondered why the greater impact on a game, all game long, of the likes of Schalk Burger, Thierry Dusatoir, the England loosies and Sir Richie has been so easily ignored when lovely Bono is the focus of discussion.</span></p>

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                                          Bones
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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="586696" data-time="1465650272"><p>He should be banned from the sideline for a week for that effort.</p></blockquote>
                                          Tough call who to cheer for if him and Brown come to blows. <br><br>
                                          Fardy was off his game huh, gave away a few pens just by being dumb, he's usually a bit smarter at the breakdown.

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