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  • NTAN Offline
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    Pocock is out for the series - fractured eye socket

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      #364

      Ouch. Sticking your head over the ball in a ruck really is lunacy when you think about it, why do we do it?

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        #365

        Didn't see the game , this is interesting <br>
        <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/80974634/Mike-Brown-shoves-Wallabies-assistant-coach-in-heated-sideline-play-in-Brisbane'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/80974634/Mike-Brown-shoves-Wallabies-assistant-coach-in-heated-sideline-play-in-Brisbane</a><br><br>
        My fondest memory of Nathan Grey is the opening round of the 2003 s12 and the blues vs tahds game . Grey stood there before the kickoff mouthing off at Sam Tuitupo and got no response from slamming Sammy apart from him spending the next 80 minutes beating him like a rented mule.<br><br>
        Twat.

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          #366

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="586927" data-time="1465690915"><p>
          Pocock is out for the series - fractured eye socket</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Damn shame , who's the likely replacement ?

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            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="586931" data-time="1465691779"><p>Didn't see the game , this is interesting <br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/80974634/Mike-Brown-shoves-Wallabies-assistant-coach-in-heated-sideline-play-in-Brisbane">http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/80974634/Mike-Brown-shoves-Wallabies-assistant-coach-in-heated-sideline-play-in-Brisbane</a><br>
            My fondest memory of Nathan Grey is the opening round of the 2003 s12 and the blues vs tahds game . Grey stood there before the kickoff mouthing off at Sam Tuitupo and got no response from slamming Sammy apart from him spending the next 80 minutes beating him like a rented mule.<br>
            Twat.</p></blockquote>
            <br>
            He talked it up in the press before the game too. piston wristed gibbon.

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              #368

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="586934" data-time="1465691875">
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              <p>Damn shame , who's the likely replacement ?</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Probably another player.</p>

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                #369

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Frank" data-cid="586937" data-time="1465692558">
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                <p>Probably another player.</p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>It's this kind of blinding insight that make me love the Fern,  You just don't get it in main stream media.</p>

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                • NTAN Offline
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                  #370

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="586934" data-time="1465691875"><p>Damn shame , who's the likely replacement ?</p></blockquote>
                  Just saw some video of Cheika saying they hadn't decided yet as they'd only got final confirmation this morning. <br><br>
                  He even mentioned bringing Gill in. But as Mariner has said previously: is that going to work given the areas we got beaten last night?<br><br>
                  Pocock won a couple of great turnovers at ruck time, but have away some stupid shit as well. <br><br>
                  I think we probably need another ball runner in the forwards, and to bring back Slipper and/or Kepu to contribute there. Arnold was shit with the ball in hand, so just needs to cover rucks with Horwill.<br><br>
                  So McCalman or Houston

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                    <p>Gill may be worth a go on the bench. It gives you the chance to change things.</p>

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                      <p>It is an option. Depends on the ref we're getting. </p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>On attack, England played flop-ruck as they're accustomed to doing up north, and Poite let them. Was always going to be fine margins there, and with Pocock out I think we look at minimising the attack on their ball, and concentrate on ball running a bit more.</p>

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                        <p>Think the ref for the next game is Owens. Or Joubert. It's one of those two, the other is doing the 3rd test.</p>

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                          Speaking of Brown, how shocking was that knock on? He should catch those blindfolded and drunk.<br><br>
                          Btw, I was impressed with Foley. He has some serious pace and skill. He's becoming world class.

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Frank" data-cid="586937" data-time="1465692558"><p>
                            Probably another player.</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Cool

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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="586936" data-time="1465692311"><p>
                              He talked it up in the press before the game too. Willis.</p></blockquote>
                              <br>
                              Did he? That's awesome.

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                                <p>BTW I just realised I've been talking about Houston, but he's already cut from the squad. So its old man Palu versus McCalman if we go with a proper #8...</p>

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                                  <p>when Messam returns from 7s duty maybe he can try to copy Grey's antics</p>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="586960" data-time="1465696691">
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                                    <p>Speaking of Brown, how shocking was that knock on? He should catch those blindfolded and drunk.<br><br>
                                    Btw, I was impressed with Foley. He has some serious pace and skill. He's becoming world class.</p>
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                                    <p>Yep, he's the new Two Dads. It was like haha they pick that guy - then all of sudden he becomes awesome.</p>

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                                      <p>Finally caught up on the game. Definitely thought it was a step down in intensity and skill from the NZ/Wales game.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Australia standing almost Deans-era deep in attack tonight. Led to a lot of running, nice backline swings but very few gains over the advantage line.  Made Foley look like a genius even though he was required to make very few decisions in traffic. That said those handful of under pressure decisions he made were quality. Unfortunately outside of Folaou very few weapons to work with. Foley's tactical kicking also impressed.</p>
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                                      <p>Loose trio watch and I think that is where England basically won the game. Their ability to effect turnovers and force crucial penalties against their late/lazy opposites. The mix as mentioned before the test just doesn't seem to work for Australia and even with Fardy having an uncharacteristically poor game - Pocock still appears to be the weak link. His injury likely may be a blessing in disguise for Australia.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Scrums were a bit of a mess and I'll leave that to the professionals.</p>
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                                      <p>Really get the feeling England are nudging back to their 2012-3 for, and hopefully Jones is able to maintain focus and close this series out next week.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Still back Australia to come back from here. Hansen is being lauded as a genius for pioneering 23 man rugby. Yet Cheika gets no credit for his new 24 man style of rugby with Nathan Grey. Absolutely comical, but unsurprising given this coaching staffs rap sheet when it comes to interactions with other players/officials.</p>

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                                        hurricane
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                                        <p>Itoje</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>He is stil learning his craft around certain facets but overall he looked the strongest forward on the field. </p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>What a player.</p>

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Richie8-7" data-cid="586851" data-time="1465680063">
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                                          <p>Calm down.  England were bloody good but on reflection, I didn't explicitly say it, so maybe you are entitled to your little sulk.  I'll say it more clearly, I'm amazed a team with this quality were so poor in their own world cup.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Do you think Australia were at their best?</p>
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                                          <p>Not a sulk mate, more of a sigh. But to answer your questions while there are many of the same personnel the team is really quite different and much more settled. Also we now do not have the whole Sam Burgess issue screwing us over. We do to have coaching by numbers, in particular subbing 2,3 & 9 at the 60 minute mark every game.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Were Aus at their best? Well of course not, certainly at forward but how much of that is down to the England 8 not allowing them to be at their best? I mean, it's not like you can just take the opposition out of the equation is it? Aus looked bloody good in the backs on attack and scored some bloody good tries. So on the whole I think credit where credit is due. England put in a good performance to beat a damned good Australian side.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Both sides have room for improvement though and next week is going to be full on. Nervous as hell but can't wait.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Oh and the England back row that I was so worried about did pretty well against the Pooper. Still worried about it though.</p>

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