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  • NTAN Offline
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    #433

    <p>However, our lineout was also looking quite wonky at that point.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The thing is, England hold the cup, so we have to win 2 of the 3 games in the series to get it back. I don't mind the decision because I think, without a 50m kicker, we were a roughly even chance at the end, given what our backs had shown to that point.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If we get the try, and tie it up, England just kick deep anyway, and we still have to get into their half of the field without giving away a penalty to lose the game again.</p>

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      #434

      <p>There's been a fair bit from Eddie regarding the treatment of the England squad whilst in Aus which may be accurate, there have been some issues previously.  Usually quite minor and annoying more than anything but then I saw a transcript of the Steve Hollies interview with Jones. I mean, what the actual fuck?</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>From the Daily Telegraph:-</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">“And the lads were pumped up, there was a bit of moisture out there and I think you and Glen (Ella) had a good moment, looked lubed up and a fair bit of shrinkage. How did you enjoy that moment with your old mate Glen up in the box?”</span></p>
      <p> </p>
      <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Seriously?</span></p>

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      • CatograndeC Offline
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        #435

        <p>The late penalty decision I can quite understand. A quick three points and then 2-3 minutes to try and get the next score. High risk but probably the only way to win the game. Taking the line out option, even if successful meant a draw with no real time left for another play. If it had paid off it would have been hailed as a genius move.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Who'd have thought it, Aussie getting grief for trying to win the game.  :o</p>

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        • D Offline
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          #436

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="587436" data-time="1465800927"><p>There's been a fair bit from Eddie regarding the treatment of the England squad whilst in Aus which may be accurate, there have been some issues previously.  Usually quite minor and annoying more than anything but then I saw a transcript of the Steve Hollies interview with Jones. I mean, what the actual fuck?<br>
           <br>
          From the Daily Telegraph:-<br>
           <br><span style="color:#333333;">[font='Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“And the lads were pumped up, there was a bit of moisture out there and I think you and Glen (Ella) had a good moment, looked lubed up and a fair bit of shrinkage. How did you enjoy that moment with your old mate Glen up in the box?”[/font]</span><br>
           <br><span style="color:#333333;">[font='Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Seriously?[/font]</span></p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Maybe Hollies was idly thinking about a personal fantasy, and didn't realise he'd actually spoken aloud?<br><br>
          It can happen, past players struggling with boundaries. Like Grey, still apparently thinking he was able to compete for the opposition's ball. I guess we should be grateful he didn't launch a flying elbow at Brown's head (although based on Brown's performances of late, that might not have been the worst outcome. I doubt Eddie will drop Brown in favour of Nowell or Watson, but if not, Brown needs to pull his socks up)

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          • jeggaJ Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #437

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="587436" data-time="1465800927">
            <div>
            <p>There's been a fair bit from Eddie regarding the treatment of the England squad whilst in Aus which may be accurate, there have been some issues previously.  Usually quite minor and annoying more than anything but then I saw a transcript of the Steve Hollies interview with Jones. I mean, what the actual fuck?</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>From the Daily Telegraph:-</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">“And the lads were pumped up, there was a bit of moisture out there and I think you and Glen (Ella) had a good moment, looked lubed up and a fair bit of shrinkage. How did you enjoy that moment with your old mate Glen up in the box?”</span></p>
            <p> </p>
            <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Seriously?</span></p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Thats pretty sad. The ARU has a pretty done some  pathetic stuff to promote the game in the past and the press have carried on in much the same vein.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Its a bit weird to see Eddie complaining about it.</p>

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            • C Offline
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              Cookie
              wrote on last edited by
              #438

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="587462" data-time="1465805194">
              <div>
              <p>Thats pretty sad. The ARU has a pretty done some  pathetic stuff to promote the game in the past and the press have carried on in much the same vein.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Its a bit weird to see Eddie complaining about it.</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>He's obviously not happy - given his "tripple mate" response to the Q from Hollies:</p>
              <p>[<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Caught off guard, Jones said: “Sorry? Repeat the question mate, I don’t like the tone of the question mate ... are we not allowed to enjoy a win mate?”]</span></p>
              <p> </p>
              <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I'm no expert on Aussie mating rituals, but I'd have thought one more would havebeen fisticuffs.  :knuppel:</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p>
              <p> </p>
              <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Open Sans Regular', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Slightly more seriously, I'm not surprised he brought it up. it's such a dumb question it deserves ridicule and Jones will not pass up an opportunity to rile the opposition in any way. I'm sure it will backfire at some point but so far it seems to be working.</span></p>

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              • D Offline
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                #439

                Like the "pal" content of a sentence uttered in a glaswegian pub. More than one "pal" per sentence and it's time to leave.

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                  #440

                  Aussie Wallabies ads are the fucking worst. England shouldn't take it personally, they're all rubbish

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                  • C Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #441

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Disgusted of TW" data-cid="587479" data-time="1465807539">
                    <div>
                    <p>Like the "pal" content of a sentence uttered in a glaswegian pub. More than one "pal" per sentence and it's time to leave.</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p>That's often the only word i understand!</p>

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                    • CatograndeC Offline
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                      Catogrande
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #442

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cookie" data-cid="587484" data-time="1465808247">
                      <div>
                      <p>That's often the only word i understand!</p>
                      </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p>Maybe through repetition?</p>

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                      • jeggaJ Offline
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                        #443

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="587483" data-time="1465807989">
                        <div>
                        <p>Aussie Wallabies ads are the fucking worst. England shouldn't take it personally, they're all rubbish</p>
                        </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p> Have they managed to top the one for the bledisloe that had a waka full of maoris landing on a beach and heading for the centrelink office to sign on for the dole?</p>

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                        • MajorStokesM Offline
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                          #444

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="587438" data-time="1465801232">
                          <div>
                          <p>The late penalty decision I can quite understand. A quick three points and then 2-3 minutes to try and get the next score. High risk but probably the only way to win the game. Taking the line out option, even if successful meant a draw with no real time left for another play. If it had paid off it would have been hailed as a genius move.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Who'd have thought it, Aussie getting grief for trying to win the game.  :o</p>
                          </div>
                          </blockquote>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>In order to win the game, they had to score a try though.  Given how strong they had looked with the ball in hand, they should have backed themselves in being able to do it from 20 out in my view.  If they can't do it from 20 out, they are even less likely to do it from 90 out, so effectively all they did for me hand themselves a loss by less points, when a draw was realistically on the table.</p>

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                          • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #445

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="587499" data-time="1465810292"><p>
                            Have they managed to top the one for the bledisloe that had a waka full of maoris landing on a beach and heading for the centrelink office to sign on for the dole?</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            It's not just the stupid ones, it's the chest beating "love us" ones that shit me the most. Overly dramatic rubbish

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                            • MN5M Offline
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                              #446

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="587503" data-time="1465811085">
                              <div>
                              <p>It's not just the stupid ones, it's the chest beating "love us" ones that shit me the most. Overly dramatic rubbish</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Until they do a "Hakarena" I'll reserve that dubious honour for the English.</p>

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                              • NTAN Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #447

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="587503" data-time="1465811085">
                                <div>
                                <p>It's not just the stupid ones, it's the chest beating "love us" ones that shit me the most. Overly dramatic rubbish</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>The new one? Better that way than some of the shit we've had in the past.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Fuck, if you want overly dramatic:</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>

                                </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>;)</p>

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                                • jeggaJ Offline
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                                  #448

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="587508" data-time="1465811405">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>Until they do a "Hakarena" I'll reserve that dubious honour for the English.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>The only time Matt Dawson has ever made me laugh was straight after the 2003 rwc when his club moved him to centre to make room for a halfback who couldn't get a super 12 spot.</p>

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                                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                                    mariner4life
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                                    #449

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="587509" data-time="1465812091"><p>
                                    The new one? Better that way than some of the shit we've had in the past.<br><br>
                                    Fuck, if you want overly dramatic:<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="

                                    ">
                                    </a><br><br><br>
                                    ;)</p></blockquote>
                                    <br>
                                    Nice whataboutery<br><br>
                                    An ad asking what the fans would do for a win? Have another pint isn't even mentioned once.

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                                    • NTAN Offline
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                                      #450

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="587511" data-time="1465812335">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>Nice whataboutery</p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>You're welcome.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>As I said: better than a lot of the shit we've had. Remember "Razzle Dazzle"? Fuck a duck...</p>

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                                        #451

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="587500" data-time="1465810686">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>In order to win the game, they had to score a try though.  Given how strong they had looked with the ball in hand, they should have backed themselves in being able to do it from 20 out in my view.  If they can't do it from 20 out, they are even less likely to do it from 90 out, so effectively all they did for me hand themselves a loss by less points, when a draw was realistically on the table.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Yeah I see that. What I'm trying to say though is that by going for the try they are effectively saying we'll settle for the draw. By taking the kick and then backing themselves for a (less likely) try they are saying we're going for the win.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>The only thing that makes either option correct is in succeeding in your aim. I found their aim to be laudable. That it was the more risky option and that it backfired on them doesn't IMO make the aim any less laudable. As an England fan I would have been gutted to have to settle for a draw so late in the game but to have lost the game in that manner would have been devastating. I reckon if that had have happened you wouldn't now be able to lay money on Aus taking it 3-0.</p>

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                                          #452

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="587508" data-time="1465811405">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Until they do a "Hakarena" I'll reserve that dubious honour for the English.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p>To be fair to Dawson (yeah I know that just sounds stupid), it was not an actual ad, just him having another "look at me" moment.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Yes he is a cock but that was just him an not evidence of a long term concerted effort on the part of our media.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>It was also shite.</p>

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