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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="575516" data-time="1461849185"><p>Think it's the waratahs bloke? Damaging runner, like Thomas Waldrom but slightly slimmer.</p></blockquote>
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Yep. Has been with the Tahs for a few years but in Palu's shadow. <br><br>
Lineout ability, good pace, around that good size frame for an eighth man. Starting to play 80 minutes this season after a few 50-60 slots. Only 24 so plenty of improvement left.<br><br>
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<p>Fair point. Four spots up for grabs is very settled in the greater scheme of things.</p>
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<p>What would your 23 look like?</p>
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<p>That's pretty settled as well:</p>
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<p>16. TPN</p>
<p>17. Slipper</p>
<p>18. Ben Alexander</p>
<p>19. Rory Arnold/Sam Carter/Adam Coleman</p>
<p>20. Ben McCalman</p>
<p>21. Nick Stirzacker</p>
<p>22. Christian Lealiifano maybe</p>
<p>23. Beale/Toomua</p>
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<p>Tomane will be a big loss - he's been in some special form for the Brumbies.</p>
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<p>TIL - England didn't tour Australia until 1975 when they played in Sydney and then Brisbane. This will be the first three Test tour.</p> -
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<p>Who do the non-Aussies and non-English want to win the series?</p>
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<p>Ockers for me</p>
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<p>A bit like choosing between gonorrhea and herpes I'll grant you but, gonorrhea doesn't linger for your lifetime :)</p>
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<p>I win each and a draw will do me , and then they both can stress about what might have been . </p> -
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<p>Are there any really good prospects (bolters) coming through on the Aussie side this season?</p>
<p>I haven't noticed anyone in particular - but I don't watch all of their games.</p>
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<p>Jed Holloway seems like a decent prospect at 8, as does the Fijian centre for the Reds. Apart from these two, I can't think of too many decent young players coming through through the Aussie ranks.</p> -
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Another one who may get a run is Dane Haylett-Petty, the fullback for the Force. Doing well with very few opportunities, could snag one of the wing spots.</p></blockquote>
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He's got a good boot too. <br><br>
Many were predicting preseason that the young 1st 5 from the Rebels, Debeczeni would be a bit of a bolter this year. Not sure. He's been a bit up and down IMO. <br><br>
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Great news for England:<br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/04/29/rob-andrew-resigns-from-rfu-and-will-leave-at-end-of-season/'>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/04/29/rob-andrew-resigns-from-rfu-and-will-leave-at-end-of-season/</a> -
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<p>Are there any really good prospects (bolters) coming through on the Aussie side this season?</p>
<p>I haven't noticed anyone in particular - but I don't watch all of their games.</p>
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<p>Reece Hodge of the Rebels?</p> -
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<p>For Wales? Looks like he'd fit Gatland ball perfick.</p>
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<p>His outside break is too good and not enough contact.</p> -
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<p>Who do the non-Aussies and non-English want to win the series?</p>
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<p>Ockers for me</p>
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<p>A bit like choosing between gonorrhea and herpes I'll grant you but, gonorrhea doesn't linger for your lifetime :)</p>
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<p>I'd quite like to replicate the joy I felt watching the lions beat them a couple of years ago. So I'm going to go with the poms, Eddie coaching them would be the icing on the cake.</p> -
Ockers for me.<br><br>
Don't like Eddie even more than I don't like Cheika.<br><br>
Also hate the uppityness of the English rugby media more than the uppityness of the Aussie rugby media.<br><br>
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<p>I think the positive about Australia winning , we get the opportunity to beat them straight after which puts everything in order ( for us) </p>
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<p>England win , they go off thinking they are the new super power </p> -
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<p>Ockers for me.<br><br>
Don't like Eddie even more than I don't like Cheika.<br><br>
Also hate the uppityness of the English rugby media more than the uppityness of the Aussie rugby media.<br><br>
Also Aussie rugby could do with the positivity in it's battle with the evil of the other codes.</p>
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<p>We don't help ourselves with the kind of bullshit going on at the Brumbies now.</p> -
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<p>We don't help ourselves with the kind of bullshit going on at the Brumbies now.</p>
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<p>What is the story there? It seems to get messier every week.</p> -
One perspective:<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "Hey, I was looking at the books, and there is something fucking wrong here."<br><br><b>Board:</b> "Oh that. Don't worry about it. Taken care of. In the past. Moving right along."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "Yeah nah. I'm in charge here, arses are on the line. What the fuck happened?"<br><br><b>Board:</b> "Look, its nothing. Just a bit of creative accounting to sort some shit out. We're good. <i>Move on</i>."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "OK then, you leave me no choice"<br><br><i>[Bunfight ensues. Toys are thrown. Matter dragged into public. EGM. Another EGM. ACT Clubs wonder what the fuck is going on. Everyone outside ACT remembers Canberra exists. Phone calls to St Leonards are made.]</i><br><br><br><b>Board:</b> "Here's some money. Shut up and fuck off."<br><br><b>CEO:</b> "OK then but I'm still not hap-"<br><br><b>Board:</b> "JOE! MAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYTE!"<br><br><b>Australian Rugby Fans:</b> "Yep, another old boys circle-jerk"
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<p>It seems that Chris Ashton has spat the dummy after missing out on the Oz trip. I know he polarises opinion and is not the best tackler but he remains a bloody good finisher. I'm not sure I would have left him out.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077</a></p> -
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<p>It seems that Chris Ashton has spat the dummy after missing out on the Oz trip. I know he polarises opinion and is not the best tackler but he remains a bloody good finisher. I'm not sure I would have left him out.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36363077</a></p>
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<p>Ashton has a massive ego, Eddie Jones has a massive ego too. Not hard to see how they might not see eye to eye or like each other much.</p>
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<p>The big difference is that Eddie Jones is the coach so if Ashton wants to play international Rugby again he needs to listen and act on what Eddie has to say.</p>
