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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="589463" data-time="1466247727"><p>
Jeez that felt like a big moment at the end of the half there. But Joubert's decision to call 'advantage over' was atrocious- he's not having a good game tonight.<br><br>
England playing smarter rugby, like last week. The conditions suit them, and they are playing them perfectly.<br><br>
We need to step up in the forwards, and continue the good work in the last 10 of the first half.</p></blockquote>Re: the advantage the same thing happened in the ABs v Wales match where we had adv in their 22. A new directive perhaps? I was very surprised as I assured my wife (Wallabies supporter) that they'd get the chance to tie it up. -
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I thought the advantage at the end of the first half was fine - seemed to go for plenty of phases.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yeah but 'number of phases' isn't the way advantage is determined.</p>
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<p>In the case of a penalty 5m out, you need a clear-cut try-scoring opportunity to present itself for the call to be made- eg. a 3-on-1 out wide. Nothing even close to that came up, so to call advantage over where we had just shifted across field but made no ground is baffling to say the least.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="589470" data-time="1466248193"><p>Yeah but 'number of phases' isn't the way advantage is determined.<br><br>
In the case of a penalty 5m out, you need a clear-cut try-scoring opportunity to present itself for the call to be made- eg. a 3-on-1 out wide. Nothing even close to that came up, so to call advantage over where we had just shifted across field but made no ground is baffling to say the least.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="589472" data-time="1466248343"><p>So how long should it go? Is it a penalty unless a try is scored? <br><br>
Does it say in the Laws that you need an equivalent to a 3 on 1 opportunity?</p></blockquote>
When the advantage is given 2m from the line and called over 10m from the line then the ref has got it wrong. There were plenty of times where England had Aus well covered and he should have called the penalty.<br><br>
So basically, yes a penalty on your own line should only ever end in the penalty being given or a try being scored.<br><br>
And as Siam points out England were on a team warning so would have had a player binned as well.<br><br>
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<p>I'm struggling to think who else is involved. Don't think it's the first time in Melbourne though...</p>
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<p>It's the quality of the surface which wouldn't be decided by a groundsman. The pitch needs relaying not a new employee.</p> -
<p>You'd think England would tire soon after all that tackling but so far they are keeping up well, impressed. Wallabies look mostly quite disorganised.</p>
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Bless you Nigel. Not what you called for, I suspect, but thank you for flagging!
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That's a fucking ridiculous call.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="589477" data-time="1466248761"><p>When the advantage is given 2m from the line and called over 10m from the line then the ref has got it wrong. There were plenty of times where England had Aus well covered and he should have called the penalty.<br><br>
So basically, yes a penalty on your own line should only ever end in the penalty being given or a try being scored.<br><br>
And as Siam points out England were on a team warning so would have had a player binned as well.<br><br>
Great defense but fuck they got away with that one.</p></blockquote>
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This has to be some kind of record for midfield bombs. How many is that now? 15 plus?
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<p>Still feel a bit strange seeing Toby Smith as a Wallabies prop even though I understand he was born there.</p>
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Gustard has earned his money as defence coach so far. Outstanding defence
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<p>Gustard has earned his money as defence coach so far. Outstanding defence</p>
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<p>Yes it is not often when you hear that the defence has turned to Gustard, that it is a good thing. Well done Paul!</p>
<p>[Yes, terrible pun. I'll go get my coat].</p>
