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England to whitewash Australia

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  • SiamS Offline
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    #558

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="589468" data-time="1466248021"><p>
    I thought the advantage at the end of the first half was fine - seemed to go for plenty of phases.</p></blockquote>
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    Except perhaps it was a yellow card penalt?

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    • barbarianB Offline
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      <p>Yeah but 'number of phases' isn't the way advantage is determined.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>In the case of a penalty 5m out, you need a clear-cut try-scoring opportunity to present itself for the call to be made- eg. a 3-on-1 out wide. Nothing even close to that came up, so to call advantage over where we had just shifted across field but made no ground is baffling to say the least.</p>

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      • DonsteppaD Offline
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        So how long should it go? Is it a penalty unless a try is scored? <br><br>
        Does it say in the Laws that you need an equivalent to a 3 on 1 opportunity?

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        • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="589470" data-time="1466248193"><p>Yeah but 'number of phases' isn't the way advantage is determined.<br><br>
          In the case of a penalty 5m out, you need a clear-cut try-scoring opportunity to present itself for the call to be made- eg. a 3-on-1 out wide. Nothing even close to that came up, so to call advantage over where we had just shifted across field but made no ground is baffling to say the least.</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Wallabies had clean ball and were just a couple of metres out. England defence were at 6/7s. That would satisfy at least one of the advantage criteria.

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          • No QuarterN Offline
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            No Quarter
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            #562

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="589472" data-time="1466248343"><p>So how long should it go? Is it a penalty unless a try is scored? <br><br>
            Does it say in the Laws that you need an equivalent to a 3 on 1 opportunity?</p></blockquote>
            When the advantage is given 2m from the line and called over 10m from the line then the ref has got it wrong. There were plenty of times where England had Aus well covered and he should have called the penalty.<br><br>
            So basically, yes a penalty on your own line should only ever end in the penalty being given or a try being scored.<br><br>
            And as Siam points out England were on a team warning so would have had a player binned as well.<br><br>
            Great defense but fuck they got away with that one.

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              #563

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="589457" data-time="1466247334">
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              <p>I'm struggling to think who else is involved. Don't think it's the first time in Melbourne though...</p>
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              <p>It's the quality of the surface which wouldn't be decided by a groundsman. The pitch needs relaying not a new employee.</p>

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              • nostrildamusN Offline
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                <p>You'd think England would tire soon after all that tackling but so far they are keeping up well, impressed. Wallabies look mostly quite disorganised.</p>

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                  #565

                  Bless you Nigel. Not what you called for, I suspect, but thank you for flagging!

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                  • No QuarterN Offline
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                    #566

                    That's a fucking ridiculous call.

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                    • canefanC Online
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                      #567

                      Joubert and the TMO make a terrible call

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                      • DonsteppaD Offline
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                        #568

                        Not sure how you get a penalty out of that one... Should be restarting play with a scrum?

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="589477" data-time="1466248761"><p>When the advantage is given 2m from the line and called over 10m from the line then the ref has got it wrong. There were plenty of times where England had Aus well covered and he should have called the penalty.<br><br>
                          So basically, yes a penalty on your own line should only ever end in the penalty being given or a try being scored.<br><br>
                          And as Siam points out England were on a team warning so would have had a player binned as well.<br><br>
                          Great defense but fuck they got away with that one.</p></blockquote>
                          <br>
                          From what I recall the advantage was called over when OZ were only 2m out from the line. It was on the opposite side of the park to where the penalty was awarded.

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                            This has to be some kind of record for midfield bombs. How many is that now? 15 plus?

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                              <p>Still feel a bit strange seeing Toby Smith as a Wallabies prop even though I understand he was born there.</p>

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                                Crucial turnover by robshaw

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                                  Gustard has earned his money as defence coach so far. Outstanding defence

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Disgusted of TW" data-cid="589490" data-time="1466249333">
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                                    <p>Gustard has earned his money as defence coach so far. Outstanding defence</p>
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                                    <p>Yes it is not often when you hear that the defence has turned to Gustard, that it is a good thing. Well done Paul!</p>
                                    <p>[Yes, terrible pun. I'll go get my coat].</p>

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                                      Should have taken the points. English defense is immense.

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                                        <p>The English tight forwards have really got about the field defending quite well. Don't remember them being so fit and committed against a SH side with 20 m or so to go.</p>

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="589493" data-time="1466249561">
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                                          <p>Should have taken the points. English defense is immense.</p>
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                                          <p>That's 2 penalty kicks they've turned down now.</p>

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