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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

    @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

    Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

    I love Finau probably more than anyone on this forum, but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

    But what I hope this coaching group does, is take obvious talent and develop it.

    Serious hp that dude has

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    @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

    @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

    @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

    Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

    I love Finau probably more than anyone on this forum, but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

    But what I hope this coaching group does, is take obvious talent and develop it.

    Serious hp that dude has

    He's a freak with a great attitude and the perfect frame.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Imagine being a young loosie and having Messam as an in-house mentor?
      A great player sure, but heart and soul Chiefs man, who understands how to just work hard to build a fucking great career.

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      @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

      Imagine being a young loosie and having Messam as an in-house mentor?
      A great player sure, but heart and soul Chiefs man, who understands how to just work hard to build a fucking great career.

      Wasn't always that way with Messam either. Was a flash harry player at the start of his career and by the end of his career was tough as nails into everything player

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

        Imagine being a young loosie and having Messam as an in-house mentor?
        A great player sure, but heart and soul Chiefs man, who understands how to just work hard to build a fucking great career.

        Wasn't always that way with Messam either. Was a flash harry player at the start of his career and by the end of his career was tough as nails into everything player

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        @KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

        @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

        Imagine being a young loosie and having Messam as an in-house mentor?
        A great player sure, but heart and soul Chiefs man, who understands how to just work hard to build a fucking great career.

        Wasn't always that way with Messam either. Was a flash harry player at the start of his career and by the end of his career was tough as nails into everything player

        Yeah sevens Mess took a while to work out.

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          Nothing as good as seeing the nutjuice sucker on the losing side…

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

            Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

            I love Finau probably more than anyone on this forum, but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

            But what I hope this coaching group does, is take obvious talent and develop it.

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            @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

            but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

            Razor likes high workrate players like Blackadder, but I think Finau will still be the starting 6.

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            • FrankF Frank

              @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

              but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

              Razor likes high workrate players like Blackadder, but I think Finau will still be the starting 6.

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              mariner4life
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              #588

              @Frank said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

              @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

              but I'm still not convinced, for all his power and skill, he does enough.

              Razor likes high workrate players like Blackadder, but I think Finau will still be the starting 6.

              Picking busy ineffective guys is a blindspot for a few coaches.
              Find talent, mould it. You can build workrate with instructions and positioning.

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                KiwiMurph
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                I went back and watched the 2nd Chiefs try off the charge down

                It was entirely Perenara's fault

                After the ball was charged down Perenara got possession and he inexplicably threw the ball back basically straight to Sititi

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                  That said, every team needs role players. Just not in the loose forwards.

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                    A number of Hurricanes wilted in a pressure game and probably fatally affected there All Black chances.
                    A number of Chiefs did the opposite.

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                      For all that I thought a few canes were really good.
                      JBarrett is not what some try to make out, but he is the best hard carrying midfielder in the country. Of he and DMac can gel they should create oodles of space
                      I thought Love was good at FB
                      Lakai is a weapon of an openside
                      That's as good as I've seen IWL play
                      The front row were good.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        Canes shouldn't have started Shields.

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                        @antipodean said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                        Canes shouldn't have started Shields.

                        Esp with Flanders in such good form

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                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                          Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

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                          @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                          Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

                          I doubt whether Sititi will amke it this year. 6, and 10 with 9 perhaps in the squad I can see.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            I went back and watched the 2nd Chiefs try off the charge down

                            It was entirely Perenara's fault

                            After the ball was charged down Perenara got possession and he inexplicably threw the ball back basically straight to Sititi

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                            @KiwiMurph Really hope he isn't in the team. Dreadful at international level.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @antipodean said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              Canes shouldn't have started Shields.

                              Really was prophetic him dropping the ball coming out in the tunnel

                              No! That didn't happen did it?

                              100% happened.

                              Loooool

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                              @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @KiwiMurph said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              @antipodean said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                              Canes shouldn't have started Shields.

                              Really was prophetic him dropping the ball coming out in the tunnel

                              No! That didn't happen did it?

                              100% happened.

                              Loooool

                              And that's what Shields and TJ did when it happened.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

                                I doubt whether Sititi will amke it this year. 6, and 10 with 9 perhaps in the squad I can see.

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                                @Dan54 said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                @BerniesCorner said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                Chiefs 6, 8, 9, 10 AB team

                                I doubt whether Sititi will amke it this year. 6, and 10 with 9 perhaps in the squad I can see.

                                I always enjoy your reluctance to ever select a new player

                                'Perhaps 9 in the squad' who are these other 9s making the squad over Ratima haha?

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  For all that I thought a few canes were really good.
                                  JBarrett is not what some try to make out, but he is the best hard carrying midfielder in the country. Of he and DMac can gel they should create oodles of space
                                  I thought Love was good at FB
                                  Lakai is a weapon of an openside
                                  That's as good as I've seen IWL play
                                  The front row were good.

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                                  @mariner4life Mostly agree. But the gap in class at First Five was as wide as the Grand Canyon.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @mariner4life Mostly agree. But the gap in class at First Five was as wide as the Grand Canyon.

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                                    @sparky said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                    @mariner4life Mostly agree. But the gap in class at First Five was as wide as the Grand Canyon.

                                    Yeah Cameron was the worst player on the park for me. Had an absolute shocker.

                                    Barrett, Moorby and Perenara also had games to forget. Probably a few more but I’m too disappointed haha

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      For all our backline flair, and athletic attacking players, we won that with linespeed and ruck pressure. Every Hurricanes player was constantly under pressure.

                                      But, the Canes worked out how to beat it, play straight and hard. JBarrett for first carrynthen everyone else off that was hard to stop, but a Chiefs defender just kept getting off the line and in their face.

                                      After most of our existence being defined by being flakey, that's fun to watch.

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                                      @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                      But, the Canes worked out how to beat it, play straight and hard.

                                      If only the Blues could play that way they'd have a chance.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                        But, the Canes worked out how to beat it, play straight and hard.

                                        If only the Blues could play that way they'd have a chance.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                        @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                        But, the Canes worked out how to beat it, play straight and hard.

                                        If only the Blues could play that way they'd have a chance.

                                        That's why they are heavy favourites in my eyes. Especially if ST is out they'll just roll us.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          For all that I thought a few canes were really good.
                                          JBarrett is not what some try to make out, but he is the best hard carrying midfielder in the country. Of he and DMac can gel they should create oodles of space
                                          I thought Love was good at FB
                                          Lakai is a weapon of an openside
                                          That's as good as I've seen IWL play
                                          The front row were good.

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                                          #602

                                          @mariner4life said in SF - Hurricanes vs Chiefs:

                                          For all that I thought a few canes were really good.
                                          JBarrett is not what some try to make out, but he is the best hard carrying midfielder in the country. Of he and DMac can gel they should create oodles of space
                                          I thought Love was good at FB
                                          Lakai is a weapon of an openside
                                          That's as good as I've seen IWL play
                                          The front row were good.

                                          Agree with all of the above. IWL caught me by surprise, he kept carrying hard. I like Canes midfield, their blend works. I am super pleased the Chiefs won, they played out of their skins. However you could argue the Canes would have been a different proposition with Roigard.

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