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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

    If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

    Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

    If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

    If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
    That's on Harry, not the selectors.

    edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

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      @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

      Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

      If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

      If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
      That's on Harry, not the selectors.

      edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

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      @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

      That's on Harry, not the selectors.

      Same as Akira then. You either reckon they got the nudge from the selectors or you don't.

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        @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

        Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

        If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

        If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
        That's on Harry, not the selectors.

        edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

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        @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

        @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

        Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

        If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

        If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
        That's on Harry, not the selectors.

        edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

        At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

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          @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

          That's on Harry, not the selectors.

          Same as Akira then. You either reckon they got the nudge from the selectors or you don't.

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          @nzzp said in Blues 2025:

          @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

          That's on Harry, not the selectors.

          Same as Akira then. You either reckon they got the nudge from the selectors or you don't.

          Not really the same: Akira is 29 and has been in the frame for years, whereas Plummer is 26 and this is the first time he has been even close on Super performance. One is quitting after giving it a decent crack, one is quitting at the first sign of potentially being up to it.

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            @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

            @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

            Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

            If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

            If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
            That's on Harry, not the selectors.

            edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

            At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

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            @brodean said in Blues 2025:

            @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

            @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

            Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

            If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

            If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
            That's on Harry, not the selectors.

            edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

            At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

            I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
            Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

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              @brodean said in Blues 2025:

              @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

              @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

              Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

              If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

              If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
              That's on Harry, not the selectors.

              edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

              At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

              I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
              Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

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              @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

              @brodean said in Blues 2025:

              @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

              @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

              Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

              If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

              If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
              That's on Harry, not the selectors.

              edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

              At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

              I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
              Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

              If someone came along and offered you a half a million dollars extra to move jobs you might feel undervalued in your current role too.

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                @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

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                @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

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                  Bugger!

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                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                    @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                    @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                    Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                    If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                    If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                    That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                    edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                    At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                    I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                    Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                    Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

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                    @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                    @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                    @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                    Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                    If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                    If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                    That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                    edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                    At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                    I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                    Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                    Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                    Fuck Razor and his merry band of inbred muppets

                    although, admitedly, Sotutu is no Blackadder...

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                      @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                      @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                      @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                      @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                      Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                      If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                      If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                      That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                      edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                      At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                      I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                      Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                      Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

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                      @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                      @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                      @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                      @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                      @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                      Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                      If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                      If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                      That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                      edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                      At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                      I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                      Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                      Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                      I assume he'll be targetting an English jersey then?

                      Good luck to him, he's been a great servant and contributed massively to turning the Blues fortunes around on the pitch.

                      Our side is being slowly torn to shreds due to lack of opportunity for a lot of our players at the next level.

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                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                        @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                        @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                        @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                        @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                        @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                        Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                        If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                        If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                        That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                        edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                        At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                        I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                        Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                        Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                        I assume he'll be targetting an English jersey then?

                        Good luck to him, he's been a great servant and contributed massively to turning the Blues fortunes around on the pitch.

                        Our side is being slowly torn to shreds due to lack of opportunity for a lot of our players at the next level.

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                        @African-Monkey @Nogusta has reported since 2020 about how fit and fired up Sotutu was, he was a huge part of our turn around that season, and @Nogusta predicted it at the start of 2020. To see him cast aside due to a coaches' prejudices it infuriating.

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                          The Crusaders types will make up bullshit about him being unfit, or not getting up off the ground quick enough, despite dominating the stats in 2024.

                          This is 100% on the anti-Auckland bias of Ryan and Robertson.

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                            The Crusaders types will make up bullshit about him being unfit, or not getting up off the ground quick enough, despite dominating the stats in 2024.

                            This is 100% on the anti-Auckland bias of Ryan and Robertson.

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                              Thompson not getting a spot is surprising given he played quite well for us in the quarter and semi.

                              Anyone know anything about Cam Christie?

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                                Thompson not getting a spot is surprising given he played quite well for us in the quarter and semi.

                                Anyone know anything about Cam Christie?

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                                @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                                Thompson not getting a spot is surprising given he played quite well for us in the quarter and semi.

                                Anyone know anything about Cam Christie?

                                Came on and made a difference in our comeback win against the Reds too.

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                                  Thompson not getting a spot is surprising given he played quite well for us in the quarter and semi.

                                  Anyone know anything about Cam Christie?

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                                  @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                                  Thompson not getting a spot is surprising given he played quite well for us in the quarter and semi.

                                  Anyone know anything about Cam Christie?

                                  Thought Thompson was off to Kobe Steelers

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                                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                                    @brodean said in Blues 2025:

                                    @reprobate said in Blues 2025:

                                    @Duluth said in Blues 2025:

                                    Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him

                                    If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving

                                    If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
                                    That's on Harry, not the selectors.

                                    edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.

                                    At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.

                                    I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
                                    Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.

                                    Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

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                                    @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                                    Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                                    I can't like this!
                                    Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?

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                                      @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                                      Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                                      I can't like this!
                                      Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:

                                      @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                                      Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                                      I can't like this!
                                      Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?

                                      RM and big LF spring to mind.

                                      Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:

                                        @Nogusta said in Blues 2025:

                                        Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ

                                        I can't like this!
                                        Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?

                                        RM and big LF spring to mind.

                                        Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:

                                        RM and big LF spring to mind.

                                        I meant in 2024.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:

                                          RM and big LF spring to mind.

                                          I meant in 2024.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:

                                          RM and big LF spring to mind.

                                          I meant in 2024.

                                          Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.

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