Highlanders 2025
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@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
I'm going down to this game, looking forward to a decent performance. And having a skin full after a days drinking.
Farewell match for at least DLB and Gilbert?
Question marks over whether Fillimone and Lowe are coming back? Same with Tele'a? Loft may be surplus to requirements next year.
Everyone else will be back.
At the awards dinner the only two they confirmed as leaving were Gilbert and Faleafaga.
You’d assume DLB won’t be back, but I guess this is recognition of the fact he isn’t retiring, so in theory could be - I’d have thought he would want a Landers farewell though considering the amount of games he has played.
The fact Tele’a hasn’t been announced as leaving suggests to me he hasn’t signed elsewhere which should mean he is back.
Lowe was probably unwanted, but might have done enough to get a renewal… doubt we’ll see Loft or Filimone back. Loft is basically last man standing in the pack.
Know where?
He seems like a wasted talent thus far, he was a huge signing and has been a failure for the Landers, and may make it harder to attract guys from Auckland schoolboy in the future...Without going into too much detail, seems he just has never settled in Dunedin... he also has just been a massive letdown on the field. He has moments of absolute quality, but his general decision making sucks.
Not to have a go at you, but for discussions sake, does he get any good coaching? He’s surrounded by average AF 10s, the coaching team is forward- based, and he’s has all of 7 -10 chances at super level (almost all off the bench). For a guy with a very high potential level it may be him, but it also feels like the Landers were the eirst possible landing space.
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
I'm going down to this game, looking forward to a decent performance. And having a skin full after a days drinking.
Farewell match for at least DLB and Gilbert?
Question marks over whether Fillimone and Lowe are coming back? Same with Tele'a? Loft may be surplus to requirements next year.
Everyone else will be back.
At the awards dinner the only two they confirmed as leaving were Gilbert and Faleafaga.
You’d assume DLB won’t be back, but I guess this is recognition of the fact he isn’t retiring, so in theory could be - I’d have thought he would want a Landers farewell though considering the amount of games he has played.
The fact Tele’a hasn’t been announced as leaving suggests to me he hasn’t signed elsewhere which should mean he is back.
Lowe was probably unwanted, but might have done enough to get a renewal… doubt we’ll see Loft or Filimone back. Loft is basically last man standing in the pack.
Know where?
He seems like a wasted talent thus far, he was a huge signing and has been a failure for the Landers, and may make it harder to attract guys from Auckland schoolboy in the future...Without going into too much detail, seems he just has never settled in Dunedin... he also has just been a massive letdown on the field. He has moments of absolute quality, but his general decision making sucks.
Not to have a go at you, but for discussions sake, does he get any good coaching? He’s surrounded by average AF 10s, the coaching team is forward- based, and he’s has all of 7 -10 chances at super level (almost all off the bench). For a guy with a very high potential level it may be him, but it also feels like the Landers were the eirst possible landing space.
Tony Brown has been around camp all season and lives in Dunedin…
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@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@frugby said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
I'm going down to this game, looking forward to a decent performance. And having a skin full after a days drinking.
Farewell match for at least DLB and Gilbert?
Question marks over whether Fillimone and Lowe are coming back? Same with Tele'a? Loft may be surplus to requirements next year.
Everyone else will be back.
At the awards dinner the only two they confirmed as leaving were Gilbert and Faleafaga.
You’d assume DLB won’t be back, but I guess this is recognition of the fact he isn’t retiring, so in theory could be - I’d have thought he would want a Landers farewell though considering the amount of games he has played.
The fact Tele’a hasn’t been announced as leaving suggests to me he hasn’t signed elsewhere which should mean he is back.
Lowe was probably unwanted, but might have done enough to get a renewal… doubt we’ll see Loft or Filimone back. Loft is basically last man standing in the pack.
Know where?
He seems like a wasted talent thus far, he was a huge signing and has been a failure for the Landers, and may make it harder to attract guys from Auckland schoolboy in the future...Without going into too much detail, seems he just has never settled in Dunedin... he also has just been a massive letdown on the field. He has moments of absolute quality, but his general decision making sucks.
Not to have a go at you, but for discussions sake, does he get any good coaching? He’s surrounded by average AF 10s, the coaching team is forward- based, and he’s has all of 7 -10 chances at super level (almost all off the bench). For a guy with a very high potential level it may be him, but it also feels like the Landers were the eirst possible landing space.
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
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@frugby No u will see It time to cum back home for Caleb, JRK 2. Vern will B see them as replace of Mark. Just wait & C. Let story play out, trust contact Sauce good.
@Grooter sorry i did’nt get that can you run it past me again
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@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
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@frugby No u will see It time to cum back home for Caleb, JRK 2. Vern will B see them as replace of Mark. Just wait & C. Let story play out, trust contact Sauce good.
@Grooter English?
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@ARHS @Steven-Harris @upthelanders
50/50
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@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
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@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
Very few 10s become successful. I liked what I saw of Faleafaga when he played well.
It is always disappointing when a player that young doesn't live up to his perceived potential. I highly doubt Millar will amount to what some think either.
This is the problem around NZ Rugby where Super is a competition where kids are brought in very early. Sink or swim.
With Faleafaga, if he didn't settle in Dunedin. I can't see Japan being much different.
As for young 10s. We have one of the most highly regarded in the country coming through with Mika Muliaina.
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Tangitau is the big fish. I reckon this has been driven out of NZR to lock him down long-term. Don't want to have one of their future wingers getting big offers from overseas nearing the end of what is probably a relatively small contract.
It also wants to see contracts and timings wrapped up together. National, super and NPC. Gets messy otherwise.
I'd think they also don't want the Landers sitting down the bottom of the table. Not a good look for it. As a national body it needs the teams under its oversight to be successful. It needs to good players staying there..have a bad season. Fine. Don't have three or four in a row. Don't be full of guys who wouldn't get a look in elsewhere.
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Have heard that the highlanders have enquired about Fiti Sa from the Chiefs. Unsure on how long he’s currently contracted or if they would release him but if true could be a handy long term player alongside Holland
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@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
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Have heard that the highlanders have enquired about Fiti Sa from the Chiefs. Unsure on how long he’s currently contracted or if they would release him but if true could be a handy long term player alongside Holland
@Fredsaua12 said in Highlanders 2025:
Have heard that the highlanders have enquired about Fiti Sa from the Chiefs.
Sa is contracted until 2026. He has only just returned from a long-term injury, and will be part of the succession plan at the Chiefs. Jimmy Tupou is off-contract so you would think that Sa will start to get more opportunities next year. Also doubts how long MSR is around. Surely Tengblad is involved from next season.
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@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Love + Harkin + Godfrey
If you add Cameron to that mix and with Jordie coming back, it's likely Harkin and Godfrey won't see as much gametime next year as they have this year. If I were the Landers I'd be going after those two. Godfrey under the roof in Dunners could be an even better option than Jacomb based on his early season form for the Canes before getting injured due to his superior running game.
Tjay Clarke, who hasn't been seen yet, but is on the Canes bench this week, is another player the Landers should target as a wing/fullback option to build depth. He was one of the top performers in the NPC last year.
A few players to target out there atm.
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@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Love + Harkin + Godfrey
If you add Cameron to that mix and with Jordie coming back, it's likely Harkin and Godfrey won't see as much gametime next year as they have this year. If I were the Landers I'd be going after those two. Godfrey under the roof in Dunners could be an even better option than Jacomb based on his early season form for the Canes before getting injured due to his superior running game.
Tjay Clarke, who hasn't been seen yet, but is on the Canes bench this week, is another player the Landers should target as a wing/fullback option to build depth. He was one of the top performers in the NPC last year.
A few players to target out there atm.
@Canes4life said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Love + Harkin + Godfrey
If you add Cameron to that mix and with Jordie coming back, it's likely Harkin and Godfrey won't see as much gametime next year as they have this year. If I were the Landers I'd be going after those two. Godfrey under the roof in Dunners could be an even better option than Jacomb based on his early season form for the Canes before getting injured due to his superior running game.
Tjay Clarke, who hasn't been seen yet, but is on the Canes bench this week, is another player the Landers should target as a wing/fullback option to build depth. He was one of the top performers in the NPC last year.
A few players to target out there atm.
If Nareki could stay fit, he, Hurley, JRK, and Tangitau + one more would be a pretty good outside back contingent.
Bailyn Sullivan is also a very good player who looks to be stuck behind a few others and being used as injury cover when he is good enough to start at the highlanders. -
@Canes4life said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Love + Harkin + Godfrey
If you add Cameron to that mix and with Jordie coming back, it's likely Harkin and Godfrey won't see as much gametime next year as they have this year. If I were the Landers I'd be going after those two. Godfrey under the roof in Dunners could be an even better option than Jacomb based on his early season form for the Canes before getting injured due to his superior running game.
Tjay Clarke, who hasn't been seen yet, but is on the Canes bench this week, is another player the Landers should target as a wing/fullback option to build depth. He was one of the top performers in the NPC last year.
A few players to target out there atm.
If Nareki could stay fit, he, Hurley, JRK, and Tangitau + one more would be a pretty good outside back contingent.
Bailyn Sullivan is also a very good player who looks to be stuck behind a few others and being used as injury cover when he is good enough to start at the highlanders.@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
Love + Harkin + Godfrey
If you add Cameron to that mix and with Jordie coming back, it's likely Harkin and Godfrey won't see as much gametime next year as they have this year. If I were the Landers I'd be going after those two. Godfrey under the roof in Dunners could be an even better option than Jacomb based on his early season form for the Canes before getting injured due to his superior running game.
Tjay Clarke, who hasn't been seen yet, but is on the Canes bench this week, is another player the Landers should target as a wing/fullback option to build depth. He was one of the top performers in the NPC last year.
A few players to target out there atm.
If Nareki could stay fit, he, Hurley, JRK, and Tangitau + one more would be a pretty good outside back contingent.
Bailyn Sullivan is also a very good player who looks to be stuck behind a few others and being used as injury cover when he is good enough to start at the highlanders.He's recently just signed on with the Canes though so won't be shifting. I've just noted Godfrey has signed until 2027, however both Harkin and Clarke are un-signed for next year so would be handy targets.
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@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
I'm with you, but equally if you are 18 and can learn from Dmac at the Chiefs, or from Barrett at the Blues, or go to the Landers and sink or swim with no senior players to learn from....
It's not like Jacomb doesn't get game time.
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@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
I'm with you, but equally if you are 18 and can learn from Dmac at the Chiefs, or from Barrett at the Blues, or go to the Landers and sink or swim with no senior players to learn from....
It's not like Jacomb doesn't get game time.
@gt12 said in Highlanders 2025:
@reprobate said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@handa457 said in Highlanders Vs Chiefs:
@gt12 There were some stories going around end of last year / early pre season that sounded like he had some significant attitude and coach-ability problems. Potentially if my memory serves me right that emerged particularly in NPC last year?
That would make sense, if they are moving him on.
Not to be too much of a dick about it, but the landers aren't exactly landing spot no. 1 for highly rated young 10s, so I find it interesting.
If I was one, they would be. Better than sitting in the stands behind McKenzie + Jacomb, or Love + Harkin + Godfrey, or Kemara + Reihana + O'Connor, or even Beauden + Perofeta.
I'm with you, but equally if you are 18 and can learn from Dmac at the Chiefs, or from Barrett at the Blues, or go to the Landers and sink or swim with no senior players to learn from....
It's not like Jacomb doesn't get game time.
Definitely a factor, particularly at 18 - but it depends on how you rate yourself, how much time you've spent already playing bit parts, and the coaching available.
Faleafaga is 22 I think - and while he hasn't done much yet - Jacomb at 23, Harkin 26, Godfrey 22 have arguably all shown enough now to play more minutes than they're likely to get (at 10).
