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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    So what do they do Fiji?

    Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.

    Is it that hot in San Diego atm

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    @Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.

    Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811

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      You could argue these days that an out an out fetcher is no longer really needed. All players have the ability for turnovers. Lineouts are a key battle for possession and I would say you need a genuine lineout option in the loose trio more then a fetcher.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Great teams find a way to win

        This isn't a great team Mike.
        Far from it.

        Razor thin from it

        England are bloody good and you found a way twice

        You should shit all over OZ and Argentina

        And I wouldn't be surprised if you go 1-1 against SA

        That to me is a great team

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        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Great teams find a way to win

        This isn't a great team Mike.
        Far from it.

        Razor thin from it

        England are bloody good and you found a way twice

        You should shit all over OZ and Argentina

        And I wouldn't be surprised if you go 1-1 against SA

        That to me is a great team

        Yeah but you’re Welsh. Who isn’t great compared to your lot 😉 ?

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.

          Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811

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          @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          @Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.

          Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811

          Yeah I thought it might be hotter from what I remember being there a couple of years ago.

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            I want to see Ratima- DMac - JB - Proctor - Ioane - Reece + super sub BB
            Sititi 6

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              So what do they do Fiji?

              Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.

              Is it that hot in San Diego atm

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              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              So what do they do Fiji?

              Adjust to playing in 25 degree heat.

              Is it that hot in San Diego atm

              https://www.google.com/search?q=weather+san+diego&oq=weather+sandoeg&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBEAAYDRiABDIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAAGA0YgAQyCQgCEAAYDRiABDIJCAMQABgNGIAEMgkIBBAAGA0YgAQyCQgFEAAYDRiABDIJCAYQABgNGIAEMgkIBxAAGA0YgAQyCQgIEAAYDRiABDIJCAkQABgNGIAEMgkIChAAGA0YgAQyCQgLEAAYDRiABDIJCAwQABgNGIAEMgkIDRAAGA0YgAQyCQgOEAAYDRiABNIBCTE4NDUxajBqN6gCGbACAQ&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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                If you want a good laugh, go read any of the various player rating articles

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                  #1313

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                  Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

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                    #1314

                    Interesting isn't it. We didn't pick the obvious stand-out #8 in NZ this year in the squad.
                    The walk-up starter has been various shades of average the first 2 weeks. In a high profile environment he should be looking over his shoulder. Instead he probably gets the Fiji game off and a guaranteed shirt v South Africa

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                    • F fcc

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.

                      This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.

                      Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.

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                      @fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.

                      This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.

                      Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.

                      I used it as an example us playing too much in our 22, and even our own half. Do you disagree we went out to run it?

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                        At end of the day we won the series 2-0 vs a very strong English team. The key now is if this coaching group can address the obvious issues with personnel and game plan.

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                          So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:

                          • An inability to exit.
                          • Aimless, uncontested kicking.
                          • No way around the rush defence.
                          • Our own defence is porous on the edges.
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                          • F frugby

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                            Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

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                            @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                            Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                            They got this bit right

                            1. Codie Taylor – 3
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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:

                              • An inability to exit.
                              • Aimless, uncontested kicking.
                              • No way around the rush defence.
                              • Our own defence is porous on the edges.
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                              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:

                              • An inability to exit.
                              • Aimless, uncontested kicking.
                              • No way around the rush defence.
                              • Our own defence is porous on the edges.

                              All we can hope is this coaching group have enough intelligence to admit their failings and actually do something about it.

                              I think if anything we have gone backwards from the Schmidt WC style that got us into the final.

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                              • M Machpants

                                @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                They got this bit right

                                1. Codie Taylor – 3
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                                frugby
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                                @Machpants I think 3 is a little low. Taylor was one of, if not the best All Black on defence. Lineout was a shambles, but not solely to blame. Did give away that dumb penalty, but he carried well, so a real mixed game.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                  He had a fucking good game considering what he was given. Couple of hard carries, some good defence as well.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                  He had a fucking good game considering what he was given. Couple of hard carries, some good defence as well.

                                  Right before he got substituted he had two men outside him in space and didnt give the pass. A few minutes later DMac had a similar option, draw and pass with BB setting up Telea for try. Not saying that he gets dropped, but setting up his outsides and passing is his Achilles heal. Needs to be better at it. Coaches need to work on him.

                                  Telea on the other hand has some limitations. Sevu is similar, faster and more effective.

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                    Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                    They got this bit right

                                    1. Codie Taylor – 3
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                                    #1322

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                    Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                    They got this bit right

                                    1. Codie Taylor – 3

                                    ……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?

                                    No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.

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                                    • F frugby

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                      Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                      Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                      LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5

                                      Did I watch a different game?

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                        Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                        They got this bit right

                                        1. Codie Taylor – 3

                                        ……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?

                                        No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                        Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                        They got this bit right

                                        1. Codie Taylor – 3

                                        ……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?

                                        No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.

                                        Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                          Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                          LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5

                                          Did I watch a different game?

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-england-steinlager-ultra-low-carb-second-test/

                                          Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.

                                          LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5

                                          Did I watch a different game?

                                          Google random number generator.

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