All Blacks vs England 2
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So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:
- An inability to exit.
- Aimless, uncontested kicking.
- No way around the rush defence.
- Our own defence is porous on the edges.
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Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
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So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:
- An inability to exit.
- Aimless, uncontested kicking.
- No way around the rush defence.
- Our own defence is porous on the edges.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So one series down and all the old problems are still apparent:
- An inability to exit.
- Aimless, uncontested kicking.
- No way around the rush defence.
- Our own defence is porous on the edges.
All we can hope is this coaching group have enough intelligence to admit their failings and actually do something about it.
I think if anything we have gone backwards from the Schmidt WC style that got us into the final.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.
He had a fucking good game considering what he was given. Couple of hard carries, some good defence as well.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.
He had a fucking good game considering what he was given. Couple of hard carries, some good defence as well.
Right before he got substituted he had two men outside him in space and didnt give the pass. A few minutes later DMac had a similar option, draw and pass with BB setting up Telea for try. Not saying that he gets dropped, but setting up his outsides and passing is his Achilles heal. Needs to be better at it. Coaches need to work on him.
Telea on the other hand has some limitations. Sevu is similar, faster and more effective.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
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Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5
Did I watch a different game?
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5
Did I watch a different game?
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
LOL. Gives DMac a 9.5 and rates Dalton's efforts the same as Christie. Mark Tele’a – 8.5
Did I watch a different game?
Google random number generator.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
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Hats off England, they were the better team for 80% of the game, they can play!
Taking my AB glasses off, it was one hell of a contest.
Some serious issues for the AB’s to iron out though, obvious two being the lineout and the exit plays/kicks. Why do our kickers struggle to kick with any distance from inside our 22?
I seriously doubted how we were going to score any points when we were down by 4 and hadn’t been out of our own half for what seemed like a good 30-40 minutes.
I never wish an injury on anyone but the Ginger getting injured was the best thing to happen, it all changed from there. Ratima’s pass is sooo much crisper and faster. All of a sudden we were playing with a bit more space and freedom.
I don’t get the Telea hate on here. He’s not in vintage form, but his work rate is top notch, has the ability to beat defenders and he does some bloody good work cleaning up scrappy ball at the back and staying on his feet until he has support.
I feel we are missing someone up front who can break the line and get us some good go forward ball.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:
We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.
This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.
Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.
@fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:
We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.
This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.
No, no, no! I won't have that.
There was the suggestion that Carl Hayman should play 8, the suggestion that Izzy Dagg should play 10 and that Richie McCaw should be dropped, along with very many other idiotic comments.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
Ok, he can have 7.5. Everyone else less than that.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.
Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811
Yeah I thought it might be hotter from what I remember being there a couple of years ago.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris That's the forecast according to the BBC for next Saturday.
Surprised it's not going to be warmer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5391811
Yeah I thought it might be hotter from what I remember being there a couple of years ago.
oh the humidity!
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
Ok, he can have 7.5. Everyone else less than that.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Christie a 6 and Ratima a 5... and that isn't even the worst part of this.
They got this bit right
- Codie Taylor – 3
……and apparently Telea was 8.5 and B Barrett was 10 ?
No wonder journalists get paid peanuts.
Beaudy was motm, so high score for me. Telea, not so much
10 ? For someone who played less than half a match ?
Ridiculous.
I didn't say ten, just he should have the highest score, he wins it for us
Ok, he can have 7.5. Everyone else less than that.
Agree
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Well done AB's. What an arm wrestle. BB and Ratima really made a difference. Both teams cancelled each other out in so many areas. Lineout, midfield and loosies for example.
Our aerial skills were awful tonight. Really missing Sam Whitelock and Brodie. Thank goodness for Dmac and BB putting others into space! -
I would love to see the 40m sprint times of our outside backs. I have a feeling Telea is not actually that fast.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
I would love to see the 40m sprint times of our outside backs. I have a feeling Telea is not actually that fast.
First half of Super Rugby he was quicker than the last six weeks. His form dipped before the finals, I suspect he has a niggle or something.
He’s not been great.
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