All Blacks vs Fiji
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
I can't believe they didn't use Clarke during the England series - I mean how many times would have it been better to have Caleb punching and getting over the gain line rather than Telea dodging 5 tacklers and getting caught behind the advantage line?
He was injured.
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
I can't believe they didn't use Clarke during the England series - I mean how many times would have it been better to have Caleb punching and getting over the gain line rather than Telea dodging 5 tacklers and getting caught behind the advantage line?
He was injured.
Um wasn't Clarke available for the 2nd test?
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
EB was disappointing given the hype from Crusaderland. He struggled with the pace of the game in the heat. May be a fitness thing given he's just back from his latest injury, but he shouldn't be close to the 23 right now.
Cane is available for the Championship squad. EB is the player that should drop out
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
EB was disappointing given the hype from Crusaderland. He struggled with the pace of the game in the heat. May be a fitness thing given he's just back from his latest injury, but he shouldn't be close to the 23 right now.
Cane is available for the Championship squad. EB is the player that should drop out
It was always a big ask. Ardie has been playing a lower standard in Japan and looks below his best. EB hasn't been playing at all. Probably needs some reps in the NPC to get him up to speed for the EOYT, assuming that Razor wants to take him
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I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?
Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it. -
I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?
Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
Didn’t someone say he was the biggest hitter in the AB squad or did I imagine that ?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
Didn’t someone say he was the biggest hitter in the AB squad or did I imagine that ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Didn’t someone say he was the biggest hitter in the AB squad or did I imagine that ?
you mean concrete shoulders? I heard that, saw some solid tackles in Super, don't remember earth-shattering ones at international level.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
How lucky is Finlay Christie? Nailed on the get the next start. Fuuuck
Not often a ginger gets kissed on the dick so often
@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
How lucky is Finlay Christie? Nailed on the get the next start. Fuuuck
Not often a ginger gets kissed on the dick so often
Not since Henry VIII
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Well done Planet Rugby, not taking the cool aid that NZ media are - note equal lowest scores for 1-7, forwards were lacking in go forward and Fiji got the turnovers until reserves on
7 Ethan Blackadder: It was good for the flank to get some Test minutes in his legs but it was not a blockbuster showing. Blackadder ticked the boxes in a decent outing but he would be upset having missed four tackles on the night. 6
6 Luke Jacobson: One of the players doing the grunt work so the others can run wild and write headlines. Jacobson did not do much going forward but made eight tackles on defence. 6
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@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
How lucky is Finlay Christie? Nailed on the get the next start. Fuuuck
Not often a ginger gets kissed on the dick so often
Not since Henry VIII
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Not often a ginger gets kissed on the dick so often
Not since Henry VIII
Philistines. Errol Flynn played Red Beard. Elton John might have a thing or two to say here as well.
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I really hope Ratima isn’t out for long, he really looks the goods
Hard to take too much from a game like this. Annoying to see all the handling errors, and some sloppy breakdown work too. But some good stuff amongst all that too.
Clarke clearly takes the 11 spot, Sevu holds 14 for now despite falling asleep to gift Fiji their first try
Keen to see Darry more at this level to see what he can grow into.
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I really hope Ratima isn’t out for long, he really looks the goods
Hard to take too much from a game like this. Annoying to see all the handling errors, and some sloppy breakdown work too. But some good stuff amongst all that too.
Clarke clearly takes the 11 spot, Sevu holds 14 for now despite falling asleep to gift Fiji their first try
Keen to see Darry more at this level to see what he can grow into.
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
I really hope Ratima isn’t out for long, he really looks the goods
I think he'll be fine for the Arg test as it looked like concussion not an injury. The big question is whether TJP is fit, as then they have a selection decision to make.
The playing surface (Bermuda grass) definitely played a part in some of the handling errors when the players hit the ground, and it was mentioned was a really hard surface.
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His hometown
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
Didn’t someone say he was the biggest hitter in the AB squad or did I imagine that ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
> I still can't work out what the best position for LJ is. He kind of looks like an 8 without the impact, does well at 6 and LOs against lower tier teams, and can play a patched up 7. But is he really a 6?Also not convinced against top sides he would have the same lineout factor.
Niggles isn't really a 7, he doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball once he gets it.So basically a perfect 6.5 that the ABs seem to insist on selecting year after year ?
Yes could be a good utility with quite a bit more finetuning.
Didn’t someone say he was the biggest hitter in the AB squad or did I imagine that ?
Used to be known for his concrete shoulders. Like a young Read in that regard.
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Read the previous comments...shouldn't have. People are going to see what they are going to see. You can predict the people who are going to say something less than positive about Niggles and it is always "he does this but ...(slide in some abstract shite)". Watch Niggles be a pest at the breakdown, support the ball carrier, etc. Actually should have been penalized for playing on the wrong side of the ruck a few times but ...
LJ needs a mention as well. I think you get Cane's defense game plus a bit more. Here is a controversial comment. Maybe a Niggles, LJ, and Sotutu backrow with Savea as impact might be our best combo.
As did Clarke. I have been his biggest critic but his positional play, high ball ability, etc is really an obvious improvement compared to Telea.
And Proctor! A real center's game. Really impressed both on defense and attack.
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Read the previous comments...shouldn't have. People are going to see what they are going to see. You can predict the people who are going to say something less than positive about Niggles and it is always "he does this but ...(slide in some abstract shite)". Watch Niggles be a pest at the breakdown, support the ball carrier, etc. Actually should have been penalized for playing on the wrong side of the ruck a few times but ...
LJ needs a mention as well. I think you get Cane's defense game plus a bit more. Here is a controversial comment. Maybe a Niggles, LJ, and Sotutu backrow with Savea as impact might be our best combo.
As did Clarke. I have been his biggest critic but his positional play, high ball ability, etc is really an obvious improvement compared to Telea.
And Proctor! A real center's game. Really impressed both on defense and attack.
I wonder how much you can read on this game though. Time will tell I suppose.@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Read the previous comments...shouldn't have. People are going to see what they are going to see. You can predict the people who are going to say something less than positive about Niggles and it is always "he does this but ...(slide in some abstract shite)". Watch Niggles be a pest at the breakdown, support the ball carrier, etc. Actually should have been penalized for playing on the wrong side of the ruck a few times but ...
LJ needs a mention as well. I think you get Cane's defense game plus a bit more. Here is a controversial comment. Maybe a Niggles, LJ, and Sotutu backrow with Savea as impact might be our best combo.
As did Clarke. I have been his biggest critic but his positional play, high ball ability, etc is really an obvious improvement compared to Telea.
And Proctor! A real center's game. Really impressed both on defense and attack.
I wonder how much you can read on this game though. Time will tell I suppose.He needs to make the squad first
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I'm really happy for ALB, thought he was a bit on the slide before.
