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All Blacks vs Argentina I

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

    No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

    Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

    Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

    Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

    No. One. Jumped.

    What every line out

    Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

    All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

    Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

    He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
    Terrible performance like a lot of them
    TJ, Jordie just really poor.
    Drop them all useless.

    Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

    Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

    He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

    Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

    And I’ll get your eye patch.

    Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

    The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1159

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

    No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

    Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

    Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

    Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

    No. One. Jumped.

    What every line out

    Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

    All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

    Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

    He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
    Terrible performance like a lot of them
    TJ, Jordie just really poor.
    Drop them all useless.

    Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

    Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

    He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

    Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

    And I’ll get your eye patch.

    Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

    The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

    Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

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    • CanerbryC Canerbry

      @Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      It all seems too pally and collegiate

      Good post

      And especially agree with the above

      Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front

      Now he put himself in a position where he must win

      So he needs to

      Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
      Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn't

      What are you on about?

      The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.

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      Canes4life
      wrote on last edited by Canes4life
      #1160

      @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      @Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      It all seems too pally and collegiate

      Good post

      And especially agree with the above

      Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front

      Now he put himself in a position where he must win

      So he needs to

      Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
      Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn't

      What are you on about?

      The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.

      Winger’s not wrong. The Crusaders are the most represented franchise in this squad yet they were by far the worst team this year. It’s not surprising the ABs are playing like them. Yes TJ, Jordie and Aumua at the end there weren’t good enough but neither were most of the other players on the park tonight. Blackadder was heavily outmuscled after all the talk about how good he is physically, Taylor was ineffective and was garbage in the two tests against England, Reece had just as many meltdowns as the Canes players tonight and Newell cocked up at scrum time in a pivotal moment in the game. But I forgot, Cantabs can’t do anything wrong. What a fucking joke.

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      • CanerbryC Canerbry

        @Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        It all seems too pally and collegiate

        Good post

        And especially agree with the above

        Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front

        Now he put himself in a position where he must win

        So he needs to

        Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
        Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn't

        What are you on about?

        The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.

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        ChrisC Offline
        Chris
        wrote on last edited by
        #1161

        @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        It all seems too pally and collegiate

        Good post

        And especially agree with the above

        Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front

        Now he put himself in a position where he must win

        So he needs to

        Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
        Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn't

        What are you on about?

        The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.

        100% correct

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

          No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

          Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

          Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

          Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

          No. One. Jumped.

          What every line out

          Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

          All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

          Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

          He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
          Terrible performance like a lot of them
          TJ, Jordie just really poor.
          Drop them all useless.

          Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

          Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

          He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

          Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

          And I’ll get your eye patch.

          Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

          The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

          Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

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          Canes4lifeC Offline
          Canes4life
          wrote on last edited by Canes4life
          #1162

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

          No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

          Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

          Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

          Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

          No. One. Jumped.

          What every line out

          Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

          All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

          Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

          He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
          Terrible performance like a lot of them
          TJ, Jordie just really poor.
          Drop them all useless.

          Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

          Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

          He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

          Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

          And I’ll get your eye patch.

          Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

          The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

          Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

          This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

            No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

            Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

            Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

            Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

            No. One. Jumped.

            What every line out

            Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

            All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

            Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

            He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
            Terrible performance like a lot of them
            TJ, Jordie just really poor.
            Drop them all useless.

            Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

            Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

            He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

            Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

            And I’ll get your eye patch.

            Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

            The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

            Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

            This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

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            Chris
            wrote on last edited by
            #1163

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

            No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

            Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

            Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

            Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

            No. One. Jumped.

            What every line out

            Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

            All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

            Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

            He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
            Terrible performance like a lot of them
            TJ, Jordie just really poor.
            Drop them all useless.

            Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

            Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

            He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

            Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

            And I’ll get your eye patch.

            Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

            The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

            Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

            This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

            Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
            Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
            But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

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            • canefanC Offline
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              canefan
              wrote on last edited by canefan
              #1164

              None of the players came out looking good. From the attitude to the tactics and everything in between. That's the fault of the coaching team. They have work to do

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              • canefanC canefan

                None of the players came out looking good. From the attitude to the tactics and everything in between. That's the fault of the coaching team. They have work to do

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                CanerbryC Offline
                Canerbry
                wrote on last edited by
                #1165

                @canefan So none of the fault on the players?

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                • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                  mariner4life
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1166

                  Well, that was a fun game to watch, NPC-esque. Loose as, lots of points, plenty of open footy. Some sexy tries from both sides.

                  Congratulations Argentina, they played footy right from the word go, any time they had possession they attacked. And they tackled well all night, and put heat on every ruck. A great win.

                  Disappointing from us. Lots of helter skelter shit. Seems our plan is chaos ball, fast fast fast. It's not a very good plan. But it makes the selections make a lot more sense.

                  Interesting that our two best periods of play that led to two very nice tries looked very much like 2024 Blues. But just without their players.

                  Darry was fucking awesome. I'm interested to see Vaai catching strays when he was thr only player I saw actually hit anyone with any force. Blackadder worked really hard, but there isn't much outcome there. The other two loosies were shit.

                  Thr backline is seriously disjointed. And it's all a moment of individual brilliance that sparks things.

                  Oh god how bad were the bench forwards?? Sititi looks like what he is, an absolute rookie elevated ahead of his time. Aumua shat the bed. Lord was 18 steps down from darry. Yuck.

                  This was not good from us. Very yuck. I expect us to win next week, but that 23 in the Republic is in for a nasty nasty time

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1167

                    @Duluth Robertson made the right noises there in the circumstances: praised the Argentinians, no excuses, owned the defeat, take the learnings and improve.

                    But there is no hiding that the selection, the game management and skill execution under pressure were all extremely poor.

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                    • CanerbryC Canerbry

                      @canefan So none of the fault on the players?

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                      canefan
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1168

                      @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                      @canefan So none of the fault on the players?

                      Sure. And they were all sub par. But IMHO the set up and the tactics did not help them to succeed. I'm puzzled, as I was in the early Foster years, why we don't play more direct. When we did we scored. When we went to wide too fast we turned the ball over and often the Argies profited

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        @canefan So none of the fault on the players?

                        Sure. And they were all sub par. But IMHO the set up and the tactics did not help them to succeed. I'm puzzled, as I was in the early Foster years, why we don't play more direct. When we did we scored. When we went to wide too fast we turned the ball over and often the Argies profited

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1169

                        @canefan Then Scott Robertson did this.

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                        • CanerbryC Canerbry

                          @canefan Then Scott Robertson did this.

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                          canefan
                          wrote on last edited by canefan
                          #1170

                          @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                          @canefan Then Scott Robertson did this.

                          You can defend your guys. I understand. But I don't think anyone can be happy with much of anything the ABs presented tonight. Regardless of where they play their provincial rugby

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                            No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                            Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                            Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                            Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                            No. One. Jumped.

                            What every line out

                            Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                            All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                            Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                            He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                            Terrible performance like a lot of them
                            TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                            Drop them all useless.

                            Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                            Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                            He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                            Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                            And I’ll get your eye patch.

                            Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                            The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                            Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                            This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                            Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                            Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                            But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                            No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                            Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                            Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                            Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                            No. One. Jumped.

                            What every line out

                            Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                            All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                            Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                            He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                            Terrible performance like a lot of them
                            TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                            Drop them all useless.

                            Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                            Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                            He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                            Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                            And I’ll get your eye patch.

                            Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                            The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                            Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                            This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                            Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                            Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                            But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                            What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

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                              Having just watched the Dame power to victory in the K1, the only conclusion left is that we must clone her at once and slot the clones in to replace the current crop of shoddy ABs.

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                                Having just watched the Dame power to victory in the K1, the only conclusion left is that we must clone her at once and slot the clones in to replace the current crop of shoddy ABs.

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                                @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                Having just watched the Dame power to victory in the K1, the only conclusion left is that we must clone her at once and slot the clones in to replace the current crop of shoddy ABs.

                                100%. She’s our greatest Olympian of all time. Even some of our ABs would be jealous of her guns.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                  No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                  Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                  Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                  Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                  No. One. Jumped.

                                  What every line out

                                  Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                  All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                  Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                  He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                  Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                  TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                  Drop them all useless.

                                  Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                  Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                  He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                  Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                  And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                  Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                  The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                  Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                  This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                  Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                  Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                  But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                  What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                  No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                  Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                  Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                  Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                  No. One. Jumped.

                                  What every line out

                                  Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                  All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                  Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                  He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                  Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                  TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                  Drop them all useless.

                                  Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                  Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                  He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                  Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                  And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                  Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                  The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                  Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                  This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                  Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                  Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                  But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                  What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                  Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                  As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                    No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                    Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                    Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                    Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                    No. One. Jumped.

                                    What every line out

                                    Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                    All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                    Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                    He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                    Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                    TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                    Drop them all useless.

                                    Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                    Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                    He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                    Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                    And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                    Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                    The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                    Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                    This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                    Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                    Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                    But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                    What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                    Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                    As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                    No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                    Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                    Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                    Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                    No. One. Jumped.

                                    What every line out

                                    Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                    All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                    Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                    He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                    Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                    TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                    Drop them all useless.

                                    Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                    Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                    He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                    Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                    And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                    Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                    The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                    Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                    This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                    Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                    Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                    But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                    What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                    Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                    As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

                                    All in all it was dreadful. We need to flush the dunny and move on. Everyone on here knows we can be better. It’s time for these guys to start bloody showing it no matter what province they are from.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                      I think the biggest issue with the ABs tonight was their mental fortitude in those last 20 minutes -

                                      That was supposed to be Robertson's forte, wasn't it? It seems to have gone backwards

                                      Was it? Genuine question, I don't remember that ever being given as a strength of his teams.

                                      Regardless, not much he can do when it's the players out on the field. Could he have picked a different squad? Perhaps - but most of the experienced guys everyone is criticising for being out of form so a bit of a catch-22.

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                                      @Mr-Fish

                                      Pretty much. Recall articles on how he bred teams who were incredibly focused when up against it.

                                      The Fern was full of gushing praise on this point, some hilariously hyperbolic.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                        No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                        Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                        Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                        Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                        No. One. Jumped.

                                        What every line out

                                        Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                        All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                        Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                        He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                        Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                        TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                        Drop them all useless.

                                        Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                        Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                        He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                        Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                        And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                        Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                        The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                        Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                        This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                        Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                        Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                        But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                        What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                        Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                        As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

                                        All in all it was dreadful. We need to flush the dunny and move on. Everyone on here knows we can be better. It’s time for these guys to start bloody showing it no matter what province they are from.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                        No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                        Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                        Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                        Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                        No. One. Jumped.

                                        What every line out

                                        Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                        All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                        Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                        He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                        Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                        TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                        Drop them all useless.

                                        Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                        Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                        He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                        Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                        And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                        Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                        The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                        Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                        This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                        Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                        Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                        But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                        What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                        Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                        As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

                                        All in all it was dreadful. We need to flush the dunny and move on. Everyone on here knows we can be better. It’s time for these guys to start bloody showing it no matter what province they are from.

                                        I feel I've landed on the Ireland II thread from last year.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          Aumua took a great time to throw so badly

                                          No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.

                                          Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.

                                          Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.

                                          Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.

                                          No. One. Jumped.

                                          What every line out

                                          Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?

                                          All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.

                                          Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.

                                          He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
                                          Terrible performance like a lot of them
                                          TJ, Jordie just really poor.
                                          Drop them all useless.

                                          Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.

                                          Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.

                                          He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.

                                          Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.

                                          And I’ll get your eye patch.

                                          Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy

                                          The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.

                                          Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.

                                          This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.

                                          Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
                                          Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
                                          But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like.

                                          What are you on about. I’ve admitted the Canes players were shit tonight. The thing I get annoyed with is when you blokes point finger at non-Cantabs when clearly your players are fking up just as much. For example Taylor had 66 minutes to impact that game and help put it beyond reach, fucking up a fair amount along the way, but when Aumua comes on and doesn’t perform it’s suddenly all his fault we lost the test. Get a grip of yourselves.

                                          Never said Amua lost the test on his own he had a lot of help,
                                          As for Taylor I think there was a shit load of other players stinking the game up more in that 66 minutes he was on the field it actually got worse in the last 15 minutes of that test it was awful.

                                          All in all it was dreadful. We need to flush the dunny and move on. Everyone on here knows we can be better. It’s time for these guys to start bloody showing it no matter what province they are from.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          We need to flush the dunny and move on

                                          The All Blacks have needed to do that far too often since Steve Hansen first used the phrase.

                                          Yet the stench of some of these performances keeps lingering - maybe its time they don't get to just move on without first fully understanding why they were a failure as a 23...

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