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All Blacks vs Argentina I

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @kiwiinmelb

    Same. It’s great as long as you get the initial setup right. Even better for incline IMO

    Never understood the hate for it

    Free weights are much more functional so I do get the ‘bro hate’ on people having a go at guys doing machine weights.

    Flip side of that of course is do we really want to injure ourselves at our age doing big benches with free weights ?

    As long as it’s keeping the body moving it’s all good stuff.

    Ratima benching that at his weight is damn impressive, up there with Will Genia and Digby Ioane but bench is only part of overall strength…..other lifts play a part too.

    Digny’s bench wasn’t much help when Jérôme collared him.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @kiwiinmelb

    Same. It’s great as long as you get the initial setup right. Even better for incline IMO

    Never understood the hate for it

    Free weights are much more functional so I do get the ‘bro hate’ on people having a go at guys doing machine weights.

    Flip side of that of course is do we really want to injure ourselves at our age doing big benches with free weights ?

    As long as it’s keeping the body moving it’s all good stuff.

    Ratima benching that at his weight is damn impressive, up there with Will Genia and Digby Ioane but bench is only part of overall strength…..other lifts play a part too.

    Digny’s bench wasn’t much help when Jérôme collared him.

    Definitely not which is exactly the point I was making

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      Anyway back to the rugby. Jordan from the bench in the first one.. give him at least 20mins.

      Maybe he starts the second test

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      @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      Anyway back to the rugby. Jordan from the bench in the first one.. give him at least 20mins.

      Maybe he starts the second test

      Yeah Beauds to start. ALB/Jordan bench. I won't be surprised to see Havili instead of ALB though.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        Anyway back to the rugby. Jordan from the bench in the first one.. give him at least 20mins.

        Maybe he starts the second test

        Yeah Beauds to start. ALB/Jordan bench. I won't be surprised to see Havili instead of ALB though.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        Anyway back to the rugby. Jordan from the bench in the first one.. give him at least 20mins.

        Maybe he starts the second test

        Yeah Beauds to start. ALB/Jordan bench. I won't be surprised to see Havili instead of ALB though.

        He covers 10 after all

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          #241

          Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

          1. TJ
          2. Dmac
          3. Mark Telea
          4. Jordie Barrett
          5. ALB
          6. Sevu Reece
          7. Beauden Barrett

          Bench
          21. Ratima
          22. Rieko Ioane
          23. Will Jordan

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

            1. TJ
            2. Dmac
            3. Mark Telea
            4. Jordie Barrett
            5. ALB
            6. Sevu Reece
            7. Beauden Barrett

            Bench
            21. Ratima
            22. Rieko Ioane
            23. Will Jordan

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            Bones
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            @Landers92 good bench impact

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              Personally. I absolutely love ALB getting the start in 13 if that’s the case. Also sends a rocket up Rieko. Good and healthy competition.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                Anyway back to the rugby. Jordan from the bench in the first one.. give him at least 20mins.

                Maybe he starts the second test

                Yeah Beauds to start. ALB/Jordan bench. I won't be surprised to see Havili instead of ALB though.

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                @Bones

                Yeah Havili needs some game time in one of the Argie matches. I disagree with him being in the squad but the cover needs to be involved in these games

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                  I think the conversation moved on from my post but in case it didn't, I understood arching was frowned on but looks like times have changed. Still, bouncing off the chest is still considered risky and dangerous.
                  Weight-Training Injuries: Bench Press
                  Oh well, as long as he isn't injured for the tests...

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                    Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

                      1. TJ
                      2. Dmac
                      3. Mark Telea
                      4. Jordie Barrett
                      5. ALB
                      6. Sevu Reece
                      7. Beauden Barrett

                      Bench
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Rieko Ioane
                      23. Will Jordan

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                      #247

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                      Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

                      1. TJ
                      2. Dmac
                      3. Mark Telea
                      4. Jordie Barrett
                      5. ALB
                      6. Sevu Reece
                      7. Beauden Barrett

                      Bench
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Rieko Ioane
                      23. Will Jordan

                      Seems odd that Caleb Clarke isn't starting.
                      Last chance saloon for Telea perhaps.
                      ALB deserves the start ahead of Proctor. (for now)

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                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                        Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

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                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

                        There could be a number of theoretical armchair weightlifting experts on here.

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

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                          @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                          Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

                          You're not alone

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                          • FrankF Frank

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

                            1. TJ
                            2. Dmac
                            3. Mark Telea
                            4. Jordie Barrett
                            5. ALB
                            6. Sevu Reece
                            7. Beauden Barrett

                            Bench
                            21. Ratima
                            22. Rieko Ioane
                            23. Will Jordan

                            Seems odd that Caleb Clarke isn't starting.
                            Last chance saloon for Telea perhaps.
                            ALB deserves the start ahead of Proctor. (for now)

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                            @Frank I don’t recall him saying he had some work done on his finger during the break in a recent all blacks post. Could be a factor

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

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                              canefan
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                              #251

                              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                              Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

                              I've gone back to weight training after 20 years off, so it's never too late. It started because I wanted strength to improve my tennis game. So I'm not trying to bulk up, mainly use machines concentrating on good technique and high reps. Over the last few months I'm finding I generally feel better in general, and I want to keep going for my general well being as I get older

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                                Bovidae
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                                It will be interesting to see how they frame the selections if that is the backline. Squad rotation or some other reason?

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                                  ALB only 29.

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                                  • FrankF Frank

                                    ALB only 29.

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                                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    ALB only 29.

                                    Potentially has one RWC left in him then

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                                    • Landers92L Landers92

                                      Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

                                      1. TJ
                                      2. Dmac
                                      3. Mark Telea
                                      4. Jordie Barrett
                                      5. ALB
                                      6. Sevu Reece
                                      7. Beauden Barrett

                                      Bench
                                      21. Ratima
                                      22. Rieko Ioane
                                      23. Will Jordan

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                                      #255

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                      Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.

                                      As I posted at weekend the 23 could be deduced from the NPC releases. Since then Perofeta succumbed to blackadders, so Jordan in.

                                      ALB to start is the talking point.

                                      1. TJ
                                      2. Dmac
                                      3. Mark Telea
                                      4. Jordie Barrett
                                      5. ALB
                                      6. Sevu Reece
                                      7. Beauden Barrett

                                      Bench
                                      21. Ratima
                                      22. Rieko Ioane
                                      23. Will Jordan

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…

                                        I've gone back to weight training after 20 years off, so it's never too late. It started because I wanted strength to improve my tennis game. So I'm not trying to bulk up, mainly use machines concentrating on good technique and high reps. Over the last few months I'm finding I generally feel better in general, and I want to keep going for my general well being as I get older

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                                        pakman
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                                        @canefan Where do you play?

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                                        • P pakman

                                          @canefan Where do you play?

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                          @canefan Where do you play?

                                          Remuera Rackets in Auckland. Do you play?

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