All Blacks vs Argentina I
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I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.
I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.
Sititi is not really a big 6.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.
I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.
Sititi is not really a big 6.
We've taken Finau over Akira, we absolutely must persist with him now. He has the physical attributes to be a world class 6 in time. Ideally we'd have Akira starting and Finau learning his trade, but the coaches inexplicable dislike of Akira means Finau now has to learn on the job. Dropping him and trying someone else not suited to the role at test level is waste of time. We just have to hope Finau finds his feet without having his confidence destroyed, which has happened to other players thrown in too soon.
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I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.
I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.
Sititi is not really a big 6.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.
I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.
Sititi is not really a big 6.
I recall him playing 6 for Harbour. Wasnt overly memorable!
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Anyone have opinions on Cameron Suafoa as the 6?
Workrate? Speed?
Doesn't lack for grunt.At Super level he's played more lock than 6 (quite impressively too).
He has a couple of promising outings at 6 for the Maori ABs. Once vs Ireland a couple of years back and then the first MAB vs Japan XV a few weeks ago.
He looks to have the frame and game for 6 but needs game time there. With Akira going he has a great chance to take the Blues 6 jersey next year (hopefully back to full fitness too following his battle with cancer)
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@Bovidae that's the selection issue. We've picked one big loosie. So if he doesn't nail it, we are stuck with small loosies.
and Finau's a newbie.
and we just lost our 2 best lineout locks.@reprobate Finau is a good lineout option but they hardly threw to him against England. That's on S Barrett.
Speaking of loose forward heights, Sititi is listed as 1.87 m. Savea 1.88-1.90 m.
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@reprobate Finau is a good lineout option but they hardly threw to him against England. That's on S Barrett.
Speaking of loose forward heights, Sititi is listed as 1.87 m. Savea 1.88-1.90 m.
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@reprobate Finau is a good lineout option but they hardly threw to him against England. That's on S Barrett.
Speaking of loose forward heights, Sititi is listed as 1.87 m. Savea 1.88-1.90 m.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@reprobate Finau is a good lineout option but they hardly threw to him against England. That's on S Barrett.
Speaking of loose forward heights, Sititi is listed as 1.87 m. Savea 1.88-1.90 m.
Well, he has had a haircut since the initial measurements were taken
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Hard to determine how good Argentina are relative to how bad Uruguay are but Argentina played a very simple game plan at pace, with exemplary execution
Interesting with all the hand wringing and meddling the SH have towards the 6N and how the 6N teams should be playing other European teams more, this was the first full cap meeting between the two countries in 9 seasons
It's a 5hr drive between Buenos Aries and Montevideo
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina (game Nr.1):
Anyone have opinions on Cameron Suafoa as the 6?
Workrate? Speed?
Doesn't lack for grunt.Good lineout, and does the hard carries which Ray so covets. No sure how hard his shoulders are!
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Hard to determine how good Argentina are relative to how bad Uruguay are but Argentina played a very simple game plan at pace, with exemplary execution
Interesting with all the hand wringing and meddling the SH have towards the 6N and how the 6N teams should be playing other European teams more, this was the first full cap meeting between the two countries in 9 seasons
It's a 5hr drive between Buenos Aries and Montevideo
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@MiketheSnow considering Maori have played Spain more than the home Nations have had tests (RWC not withstanding), a similar proposition you can argue that any way you want
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow considering Maori have played Spain more than the home Nations have had tests (RWC not withstanding), a similar proposition you can argue that any way you want
True
But for many of those matches I would posit the similar standard of both teams made it a sensible contest
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
World Cup semi finalists, were playing our best available side for this one.
we're ?
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
World Cup semi finalists, were playing our best available side for this one.
we're ?
@MiketheSnow I am a dyslexic. It's a small miracle I can spell anything at all.
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Best available team for both Pumas games, both SA games and once the Bledisloe is secure. Then best available team for every match on Northern Tour. If someone is at 75%, sure give them a break. Need to go back to the only game that matters is the next one and pick the best team for it.
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We entered this year super thin in a few positions because the last two years every game was a must win and the same old side rolled out.
We have to start playing some new guys, or we will enter the next RWC with some broken old men and lots of barely-played newbs.
Edit: and by "playing" I mean playing under red hot conditions, like in South Africa. Merely giving the next tier of players a spell or two in lighter games simply is not preparing them, or the team, properly.
Whose to say that the new guys aren't better? We'll never know if we never give them a chance.
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We entered this year super thin in a few positions because the last two years every game was a must win and the same old side rolled out.
We have to start playing some new guys, or we will enter the next RWC with some broken old men and lots of barely-played newbs.
Edit: and by "playing" I mean playing under red hot conditions, like in South Africa. Merely giving the next tier of players a spell or two in lighter games simply is not preparing them, or the team, properly.
Whose to say that the new guys aren't better? We'll never know if we never give them a chance.
@Chester-Draws plug in one or two at a time though, not 5 or 6 at once
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It's time to start Sititi and Proctor
