All Blacks vs Argentina I
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Here is the apparent backline for this weekend barring any set backs that I’ve just been sent. I do have doubts because the decisions are a little odd but I can only take his word for it. Hasn’t led me astray so far so thought I’d share with the fern.
- TJ
- Dmac
- Mark Telea
- Jordie Barrett
- ALB
- Sevu Reece
- Beauden Barrett
Bench
21. Ratima
22. Rieko Ioane
23. Will JordanLast chance saloon for Telea perhaps.
has telea been THAT bad? doesn't feel that long ago he was the second coming, hopefully just needs a push in the right direction
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@canefan I live in Wimbledon, but that’s where I played when I was a junior. Ten grass courts in those days.
upvote for Wimbledon :man-shrugging:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
has Telea been THAT bad? doesn't feel that long ago he was the second coming, hopefully just needs a push in the right direction
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
It really doesn't matter how good the rest of your game is, if there is a massive weakness that others can exploit quite so dramatically then you aren't going to stay in black.
It's not like the alternatives are that much worse attacking either.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
has Telea been THAT bad? doesn't feel that long ago he was the second coming, hopefully just needs a push in the right direction
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
It really doesn't matter how good the rest of your game is, if there is a massive weakness that others can exploit quite so dramatically then you aren't going to stay in black.
It's not like the alternatives are that much worse attacking either.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
and Sevu Reece got run past in a simple 1 on 1.
It is a holistic assessment. I really rate Sevu, but he is on the small side for Test rugby. Want Caleb back there; his work in the air (particularly at kickoffs) is awesome
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
has Telea been THAT bad? doesn't feel that long ago he was the second coming, hopefully just needs a push in the right direction
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
It really doesn't matter how good the rest of your game is, if there is a massive weakness that others can exploit quite so dramatically then you aren't going to stay in black.
It's not like the alternatives are that much worse attacking either.
@Chester-Draws as i say, i get he has some real work on's and others are currently clearly playing better, just seems a little harsh to suggest "last chance"
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
and Sevu Reece got run past in a simple 1 on 1.
It is a holistic assessment. I really rate Sevu, but he is on the small side for Test rugby. Want Caleb back there; his work in the air (particularly at kickoffs) is awesome
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Two tries let in to being out of position/out-jumped from cross-kicks in a single game is a major issue.
and Sevu Reece got run past in a simple 1 on 1.
It is a holistic assessment. I really rate Sevu, but he is on the small side for Test rugby. Want Caleb back there; his work in the air (particularly at kickoffs) is awesome
Our winger are great at super rugby level but a bit limited at test level
I would prefer Clarke and Rieko. Speed and power. With Love at FB until Jordan is fully fit.
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ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Twickenham is available
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Twickenham is available
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Twickenham is available
Allianz if you don't mind
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ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Even that (1) win was a lackluster result, they only won 26-14 with France playing with 14 men for 70 minutes....
The Auckland & Dunedin tests were absolute routings, 52-11, 49-14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_France_rugby_union_tour_of_New_Zealand
The cake tin hoodoo is very real.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Even that (1) win was a lackluster result, they only won 26-14 with France playing with 14 men for 70 minutes....
The Auckland & Dunedin tests were absolute routings, 52-11, 49-14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_France_rugby_union_tour_of_New_Zealand
The cake tin hoodoo is very real.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
they only won 26-14 with France down to 14 men for 70 minutes....
That was such a shit game, just awful. I was there for all(?) of those games, sucks!
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
they only won 26-14 with France down to 14 men for 70 minutes....
That was such a shit game, just awful. I was there for all(?) of those games, sucks!
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
they only won 26-14 with France down to 14 men for 70 minutes....
That was such a shit game, just awful. I was there for all(?) of those games, sucks!
Just think if the 43,,000 capacity AMI Stadium hadn't sunk in liquefaction the All Blacks historical winning record might be a few digits higher with less fixtures given to Wellington.
2011 pre–world cup against SA is the only high scoring performance in the capital since the 2011 earthquake -. 2012, 13, 14, 16, all low scoring wins... since then all loses except for that 2018 test.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
ABs have won 1 of their last 6 tests in Wellington
If they lose this weekend I petition to shift the Bledisloe match out of Wellington....
Even that (1) win was a lackluster result, they only won 26-14 with France playing with 14 men for 70 minutes....
The Auckland & Dunedin tests were absolute routings, 52-11, 49-14.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_France_rugby_union_tour_of_New_Zealand
The cake tin hoodoo is very real.
Lost to Lions the year before too.
Our record in Wellington is by far the worst in Mz
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Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…
You are not alone William. Solidarity.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Last few pages have left me thinking I’m the only somewhat unfit not ripped poster on the forum. Everyone else lifting weights…
You are not alone William. Solidarity.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
You are not alone William. Solidarity.
Don't you mean solidity?
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Brace yourself for the team naming.
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I don't get the ALB selection, if Ioane isn't starting then surely Proctor deserves that opportunity being the form 13. I actually wouldn't have minded if ALB and Proctor started again together to send a rocket up J Barrett aswell.
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Lost to Lions the year before too.
Our record in Wellington is by far the worst in Mz
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Lost to Lions the year before too.
Our record in Wellington is by far the worst in Mz
If it wasn't for SBW's shoulder we would have been sweet.
Yeah the ABs don't have a good record in Welly and we can't even blame the poor weather. The last two tests I've been to were perfect conditions and we lost against South Africa in the last second, and then Ireland aswell. Hopefully we can turn it around.
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@Toddy I think a lot of people have their eye on the Aus test in September rather than this week's Argies test.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Toddy I think a lot of people have their eye on the Aus test in September rather than this week's Argies test.
The allocation of tests this year is odd.
Argentina aren't a draw so would have made more sense to move them out of Eden Park and Sky Stadium that already have other big tests.
