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All Blacks vs Argentina I

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    #1021

    Anyone think the following were net positive?
    Newell.
    Reece.
    Ethan.
    ALB.
    Savea.
    Jordie.
    TJP.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      Very predictable result with that selected team.

      Got owned in the forwards.

      sparkyS Offline
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      @Kirwan Nail hit on head.

      All we can hope is that Robertson has now learned the hard way that Test Rugby coaching is about a lot more than bigging up your pals.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem

        Playing super rugby in test matches is the problem

        Looking at how very poor both NZ and Australia were, I'd say Super Rugby is the problem.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        @W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem

        Playing super rugby in test matches is the problem

        Looking at how very poor both NZ and Australia were, I'd say Super Rugby is the problem.

        Except that the team that won the comp is under represented, and play a totally different style to the ABs

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        • M Machpants

          @W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem

          I think getting the remnants of late hansen/foster out of the ABs is going to take longer than I'd hoped. But yeah, absolutely the same shit. The basic thing is our structure, what there is of it, sucks.

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          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem

          I think getting the remnants of late hansen/foster out of the ABs is going to take longer than I'd hoped. But yeah, absolutely the same shit. The basic thing is our structure, what there is of it, sucks.

          You know you not still blaming Hansen/Foster? Perhaps we have a problem with our players aren't quite good enough? That perhaps is has been the problem for a little while, the rest of world has caught up?

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          • DuluthD Offline
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            It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

            Where’s Vern?

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Canes4life I worked for WCC. I don't think the job market has changed that much in the last decade.

              Ummmmmmm, this is not one of your finest posts bro.

              Really good point.

              Stay on topic please

              We're talking about who attends rugby matches. Have another beer.

              I think tonight speaks volumes.

              Nothing to do with the job market though

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

              @Canes4life I worked for WCC. I don't think the job market has changed that much in the last decade.

              Ummmmmmm, this is not one of your finest posts bro.

              Really good point.

              Stay on topic please

              We're talking about who attends rugby matches. Have another beer.

              I think tonight speaks volumes.

              Nothing to do with the job market though

              Distinct lack of bureaucrats eh.

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              • KirwanK Offline
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                #1027

                Conceding 38 points against Argentina is a new low.

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                • Darth SaderD Offline
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                  Positives? Ratima looked quick, Darry looked ok… didn’t lose a scrum in the first half

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                    I think getting the remnants of late hansen/foster out of the ABs is going to take longer than I'd hoped.

                    It's a pity the coaching staff didn't keep the "lose the RWC Final by 1 point with 14 men" remnant...

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                    • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                      kiwiinmelb
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                      #1030

                      We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        Anyone think the following were net positive?
                        Newell.
                        Reece.
                        Ethan.
                        ALB.
                        Savea.
                        Jordie.
                        TJP.

                        Canes4lifeC Online
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                        Canes4life
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                        #1031

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        Anyone think the following were net positive?
                        Newell.
                        Reece.
                        Ethan.
                        ALB.
                        Savea.
                        Jordie.
                        TJP.

                        Add Codie Taylor to that list. He was poor aswell.

                        DMac is an issue aswell, he’s too erratic still.

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                        • BonesB Online
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                          #1032

                          Yuck. Three opensides doesn't work, especially when one is only there to inspect rucks and/or give away penalties.

                          Darry played well but Vaai is a non entity, missed Patch and Scooter.

                          Clarke would've made a difference and as well as Perenara played we need better distribution to get go forward, especially with such an unthreatening pack.

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                          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                            We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

                            The games against South Africa, England away, Ireland and France are a big concern now. They could be very ugly if we persist with that side.

                            Hell, I'm even a worried now the Aussies might have a shot at the Bledisloe.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                              Where’s Vern?

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                              Kirwan
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                              @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                              It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                              Where’s Vern?

                              Yeah, Ryan’s in for a fun week after being arrogant to the media for this one.

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                              • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                                MiketheSnow
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                                Ouch

                                From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

                                This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

                                The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

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                                • antipodeanA Online
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                                  antipodean
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                                  Coaching brilliance brings on Rieko and Jordan with 15mins left and no opportunity to do anything because we keep giving away possession.

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                                    Where’s Vern?

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                                    Victor Meldrew
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                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                                    This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

                                    Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                                      kiwiinmelb
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                                      #1038

                                      Welcome to the pressure cooker of coaching the abs razor ,

                                      This could get ugly quickly if he doesn’t turn it around

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

                                        Sadly, I’m old enough to remember a time when the ABs would never have lost that game, simply because they would be too scared to lose. Unfortunately mediocrity has become normal for this team. I had hoped for more from Razor’s appointment.

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                                        • His BobnessH Offline
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                                          Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

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