All Blacks v Argentina II
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Vaii's best game as an All Black.
Long term I think he is a 6 who can play Lock, rather than the other way around.
I wouldn’t been against that as it looks as though he could be squeezed out of the lock quartet.
Tbf to him he does look better at this level this year.
He would need to add some bulk up which is just a bit of time to do so.
He would definitely need to move there for the Chiefs obviously but then he has Finau in front of him.
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5 away from Howlett.
I said back in 2017 that he would break the record but the tries have dried up lately.
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Will Jordan may get there first. 33 tries in 33 Tests is an amazing strike rate.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Any scrum experts on that penalty?
At 38. Didn't look as though Tamaiti was pushing down. May be that Codie was angling down on Puma tighthead, who looked to me like he hinged. @nta?
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Referee is excellent. No mucking about with TMO, clear communication and not a single decision you can unequivocally say is wrong.
@Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Referee is excellent. No mucking about with TMO, clear communication and not a single decision you can unequivocally say is wrong.
Best Italian ref I've ever seen!
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@kpkanz so our starting centre was selfless and created all that space for the other backs? My man!
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kpkanz so our starting centre was selfless and created all that space for the other backs? My man!
So he was selfless and created all that space...but he had the 2nd most carries and at the same time was completely useless offensively.
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
but he had the 2nd least tackles made of any back.You claimed he was the primary factor in cleaning up the turnovers in midfield..
but he conceded the most turnovers of possession of anyone in the entire team.hmmmmm
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kpkanz so our starting centre was selfless and created all that space for the other backs? My man!
So he was selfless and created all that space...but he had the 2nd most carries and at the same time was completely useless offensively.
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
but he had the 2nd least tackles made of any back.You claimed he was the primary factor in cleaning up the turnovers in midfield..
but he conceded the most turnovers of possession of anyone in the entire team.hmmmmm
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Fuck me 5 changes at once
Let's watch the AB intensity dissipate...
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The whole pack has stood up tonight.
.... hmmm is this the mini bomb squad or something?
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
The whole pack has stood up tonight.
.... hmmm is this the mini bomb squad or something?
You mean 'mini-bomb' squad?
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
I swear reading comprehension isn't taught in schools anymore.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
I swear reading comprehension isn't taught in schools anymore.
You brought up how there were no linebreaks/turnovers insinuating this was Riekos doing.
So you agree he was ineffectual in attack, conceded the most turnovers and was a spectator in defense with a grand total of 2 tackles all game.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
I swear reading comprehension isn't taught in schools anymore.
You brought up how there were no linebreaks/turnovers insinuating this was Riekos doing.
So you agree he was ineffectual in attack, conceded the most turnovers and was a spectator in defense with a grand total of 2 tackles all game.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
You claimed he was a defensive powerhouse..
I swear reading comprehension isn't taught in schools anymore.
You brought up how there were no linebreaks/turnovers insinuating this was Riekos doing.
So you agree he was ineffectual in attack, conceded the most turnovers and was a spectator in defense with a grand total of 2 tackles all game.
I swear reading comprehension isn't taught in schools anymore.
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Will Jordan may get there first. 33 tries in 33 Tests is an amazing strike rate.
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He just might do. They could get to a point where they are both 1 or 2 off the record.
Having said that, Jordan is 27 next year isn’t he so he may be off to the wingers graveyard before he breaks it
@DaGrubster He seems to be retaining his pace. Hopefully, he'll still be a quality player into his 30s.
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
At least the scrum has stayed dominant
Not once props have changed, it hasn't. Been the better but not dominant anymore
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
At least the scrum has stayed dominant
Not once props have changed, it hasn't. Been the better but not dominant anymore
Puma bench TH is better and now playing with two locks.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being always fit and seemingly undroppable.
3 against Argentina, 1 against USA, 2 against Wales, 1 against Ireland and 1 in the 2023 RWC Final.
The try against Ireland and the try in the world up final he fell over the line with the ball from a yard out.
The highlight reel runs and ball on a string chip and chases have dried up.
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Drop a winger from the squad and bring in Plummer
@BerniesCorner Plummer's probably our second best 10 behind DMac.
Yeah, he definitely get minutes against Australia and on the End of Year tour.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
How much of that time did he spend playing at 10?
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@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
How much of that time did he spend playing at 10?
@Snowy said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
How much of that time did he spend playing at 10?
which time? the 36 tries period or the fallow period?
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@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
How much of that time did he spend playing at 10?
@Snowy said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
44 Test tries now for Beauden Barrett. It's some career he's having.
He should have broke Howlett's record ages ago.
He had scored 36 tries from 2013-2019. An average of 5+ a year.
He has only scored 8 in the 5 seasons since the 2019 RWC despite being undroppable.
How much of that time did he spend playing at 10?
Played 10 2016/2017/2018.
2019 was dual pivot rubbish with Mo'unga.
And he has basically been a fullback ever since.
