All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Almost all the Argie points were scored on the back of self inflicted wounds. Poor kicking game and inability to exit, trying to play too wide before establishing a forward platform, trying to play with the ball in dangerous positions. All of these things had a significant impact on the performance of all of the players
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Not what I would do or want more like what I think may happen.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Kruse said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
I have been a fan of Ethan Blackadder but to see him barrelled over by the ball carrier in the incident where he nearly got a yellow was stark.
Cane, Collins, Kaino et al would have emptied that fella, or at least stop him dead in his tracks.
And then it WOULD have been a yellow.
Being a pussy, kept him on the field. Gardner used slightly different words, but... that was what he meant.I've never seen that before from an AB. His lack of physicality in that moment was jarring
You've never seen an All Black bumped off before?
That was forward on forward, but looked like man vs boy
Sebastian Chabal v Ali Williams instantly comes to mind...
So does Denton vs McCaw.
It takes a hard
ZimbabweanScotsman to knock over the GOAT@MN5 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Kruse said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:
I have been a fan of Ethan Blackadder but to see him barrelled over by the ball carrier in the incident where he nearly got a yellow was stark.
Cane, Collins, Kaino et al would have emptied that fella, or at least stop him dead in his tracks.
And then it WOULD have been a yellow.
Being a pussy, kept him on the field. Gardner used slightly different words, but... that was what he meant.I've never seen that before from an AB. His lack of physicality in that moment was jarring
You've never seen an All Black bumped off before?
That was forward on forward, but looked like man vs boy
Sebastian Chabal v Ali Williams instantly comes to mind...
So does Denton vs McCaw.
It takes a hard
ZimbabweanScotsman to knock over the GOATNah the Scottish McCaw must have felt patriotic loyalty... An inside job
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Not what I would do or want more like what I think may happen.
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Not what I would do or want more like what I think may happen.
If BB gets move to 10 I'll....
Well, I'll laugh in "well this new era is certainly different aye?"
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Not what I would do or want more like what I think may happen.
If BB gets move to 10 I'll....
Well, I'll laugh in "well this new era is certainly different aye?"
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I expect some changes coming one might be BB to first five which makes me very nervous,Jordan to FB and Ratima to HB I can see that happening but not much else.
Maybe Clarke for Reece.
Razor did pin point the Savea and D Mac fuck up passes which led to the Argies try as being the pivotal losing point in the match.
Him highlighting that may cost some one a starting spot.That's certainly one way to spin it.
Bad error? Yes. Compounded by another bad error? Also yes.
Pivotal losing point? Come the fuck on.The complete inability of our forwards to thrn defend that situation is a bigger concern than a couple of individual judgement and skill errors. Errors that came about because our overall mindset was "fast and wide always"
Not what I would do or want more like what I think may happen.
If BB gets move to 10 I'll....
Well, I'll laugh in "well this new era is certainly different aye?"
Yeah I will just about not want to watch if that happens.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
Not if they are going to use the same game plan. I am all for Plummer, but if they want to play the way they have been Plummer's game doesn't suit.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
Not if they are going to use the same game plan. I am all for Plummer, but if they want to play the way they have been Plummer's game doesn't suit.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
Not if they are going to use the same game plan. I am all for Plummer, but if they want to play the way they have been Plummer's game doesn't suit.
"Fuck it let's call Vern Cotter"
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
Not if they are going to use the same game plan. I am all for Plummer, but if they want to play the way they have been Plummer's game doesn't suit.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
Not if they are going to use the same game plan. I am all for Plummer, but if they want to play the way they have been Plummer's game doesn't suit.
Yes you are right, Robertson has to go too
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
The stupid wide, wide, wide backline moves seem to have been built around DMac's supposed distribution ability.
Put Plummer in and everything becomes more simple. -
The frustrating thing is we can go direct but we choose not to. Cotter did not invent something new, it's just direct forward play, stay close in support and clean out, recycle and repeat. Any of the forwards in the squad right now could play that game. It's the isolation that is killing us right now, we can't keep possession for decent periods of time to create pressure. Or we don't want to because we'd rather score on every play
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
Wait to the 2nd half is over.
He does miss a sitter penalty from in front and throws shocker of a pass which Reiko had to force to create the last Argies try. -
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
Don’t stress, we’ve got this. The Argies hooker is 39 for fucks sake. He’ll run out of steam and the ABs will capitalise.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
Wait to the 2nd half is over.
He does miss a sitter penalty from in front and throws shocker of a pass which Reiko had to force to create the last Argies try.@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They'd be better off saying fuck it and give Plummer the 10 shirt
yeah why not I am not sure D Mac is the answer at 10.
I'm watching the replay, still in the first half. DMac is good. He's out best 10 at the moment by some margin. His passing is arguably the best in the backline (including TJ). He unlocks defences - put ALB in for his try.
The issue is the forwrads. We are getting stopped on teh gain line every time. We are struggling to protect our ruck ball. Our problems are up front- Argies outmuscling us consistently.
Wait to the 2nd half is over.
He does miss a sitter penalty from in front and throws shocker of a pass which Reiko had to force to create the last Argies try.Don't ruin it for him!
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Was Fozzie still as bad as everyone makes out?
@Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Was Fozzie still as bad as everyone makes out?
Yes. So bad the team is still trying to shake him off. It's a credit to the coaching staff last night was the first loss of the season.
