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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @Crazy-Horse said in Americas cup:

    It had me wondering if singing across the ropes was actually a sailing term that I had never heard of.

    Haha. For a guy with 2 "w"s in his name missing it twice was quite something.

    @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

    Anyways, AUS-35 was built without support beams running fore and aft and relied on the mast an keel bulkhead. Apparently during the race the primary winch failed and they used the running backstay winch pulling the bow and stern together.

    Cheers. Exactly what I asked above.

    @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

    I love the boats but for the most part the racing stinks. Hopefully the LV Cup will see the teams actually racing and some closer contests rather than win the start and win by 700m.

    Also this. I watched the start of each race, and then fast forwarded to check the result at the finish. Was only different once I think.

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    @Snowy said in Americas cup:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Americas cup:

    It had me wondering if singing across the ropes was actually a sailing term that I had never heard of.

    Haha. For a guy with 2 "w"s in his name missing it twice was quite something.

    @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

    Anyways, AUS-35 was built without support beams running fore and aft and relied on the mast an keel bulkhead. Apparently during the race the primary winch failed and they used the running backstay winch pulling the bow and stern together.

    Cheers. Exactly what I asked above.

    @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

    I love the boats but for the most part the racing stinks. Hopefully the LV Cup will see the teams actually racing and some closer contests rather than win the start and win by 700m.

    Also this. I watched the start of each race, and then fast forwarded to check the result at the finish. Was only different once I think.

    The official YouTube channel for the Louis Vuitton 37th America's Cup Barcelona has great race recaps that are about 9 minutes long.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Crazy-Horse said in Americas cup:

      It had me wondering if singing across the ropes was actually a sailing term that I had never heard of.

      Haha. For a guy with 2 "w"s in his name missing it twice was quite something.

      @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

      Anyways, AUS-35 was built without support beams running fore and aft and relied on the mast an keel bulkhead. Apparently during the race the primary winch failed and they used the running backstay winch pulling the bow and stern together.

      Cheers. Exactly what I asked above.

      @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

      I love the boats but for the most part the racing stinks. Hopefully the LV Cup will see the teams actually racing and some closer contests rather than win the start and win by 700m.

      Also this. I watched the start of each race, and then fast forwarded to check the result at the finish. Was only different once I think.

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      @Snowy said in Americas cup:

      @Crazy-Horse said in Americas cup:

      It had me wondering if singing across the ropes was actually a sailing term that I had never heard of.

      Haha. For a guy with 2 "w"s in his name missing it twice was quite something.

      @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

      Anyways, AUS-35 was built without support beams running fore and aft and relied on the mast an keel bulkhead. Apparently during the race the primary winch failed and they used the running backstay winch pulling the bow and stern together.

      Cheers. Exactly what I asked above.

      @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

      I love the boats but for the most part the racing stinks. Hopefully the LV Cup will see the teams actually racing and some closer contests rather than win the start and win by 700m.

      Also this. I watched the start of each race, and then fast forwarded to check the result at the finish. Was only different once I think.

      The racing will get better, especially the AC itself but what annoys me so much is a 700m lead is so easy to obtain. Once you 250m the race is pretty much over. I guess it was in the IACCs as well but at least you could sail half way round the world in search of a favourable 30° wind shift and get back in touch. All early days of course.

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        #61

        Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

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          clearly the water pistols were proving ineffective

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

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            @sparky said in Americas cup:

            Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

            Passes the sniff test.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

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              @sparky said in Americas cup:

              Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

              I remember walking around in Barcelona at all hours years ago, then found out it was apparently one of the crime capitals of Spain

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                #65

                Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                Bit of a no brainer for me.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

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                  @sparky said in Americas cup:

                  Ben Ainslie threatened by knife and robbed in Barcelona.

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rd12zpnwgo

                  lol, very common having a few beers in Barcelona and experiencing this or watching it happen, I lost a watch this way

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    Nah @Snowy is spot on. ETNZ screwed Akl over massively and knowingly.

                    Akl were never going to get a return on the infrastructure investment they made for the last defence particularly once it was affected by Covid meaning no overseas visitors. Dalton always knew Akl had gambled on a successful defence to make money in 2024. Council and central govt offered him $100 mill to defend again in Akl but he decided to cash in and go out for a bidding war.

                    Ironically ETNZ aren't the holders RNZYS is. I wish they'd told Dalton to fuck off we will find another defender.

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                    @dogmeat

                    If the return was to be realised in the next defence of the cup (assuming we won 2021), why the fuxk didn’t the have it contractually binding that the funding is subject to hosting in 2024 if they successfully hosted in 2021?

                    Fuxk all places they could have gone in 2021 to host the Americas cup

                    It just seems amateurish to have the payoff in the next hosting round but we aren’t going to ensure that the defender is contractually obliged to defend it in auckland

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                      Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                      Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                      Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                      I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                      Bit of a no brainer for me.

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                      @MajorRage said in Americas cup:

                      Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                      Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                      Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                      Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                      I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                      Bit of a no brainer for me.

                      Valencia was through necessity because the America's Cup must be a held on an ocean sea course. San Fran was because the Golden Gate Yacht Club was the defender, Bermuda because its a tax haven, and Auckland because ETNZ won through the RNZYS.

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                        Much better racing today, good to see ETNZ come from behind to win, of course, race wins mean nothing for them, just trialing their boat.

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                        • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                          Much better racing today, good to see ETNZ come from behind to win, of course, race wins mean nothing for them, just trialing their boat.

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                          @LatsToTheMax

                          That was outstanding the way they took the lead against Luna Rossa.

                          The big problem with these boats seems that whoever gets in front seems to build a big lead and it’s just a procession.

                          Hopefully by the time the LV finals start we should see close high quality racing

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                          • MajorPomM MajorPom

                            Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                            Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                            Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                            Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                            I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                            Bit of a no brainer for me.

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                            nzzp
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                            @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

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                              @nzzp said in Americas cup:

                              @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

                              That’s exactly my point.

                              Did the seriously wealthy want to return after 3 years?

                              Very different going to diff spots in America than Auckland.

                              Just speculating. I have no idea.

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                                Bit of an issue here…

                                https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/news/717_UPDATED-STATEMENT-FROM-EMIRATES-TEAM-NEW-ZEALAND-.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1x4ybjRFojqqPyLtdUkRUfoObTq-ylt1jevsgYa48ExRbmc_xXOoPNduY_aem_5IOOH3cTqFInbIBziQqFug

                                Will miss tomorrow racing as a minimum

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                                    I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

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                                      I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

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                                      @Donsteppa said in Americas cup:

                                      I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

                                      Well they dropped the ball so....

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                                        Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                                        Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                                        Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                                        I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                                        Bit of a no brainer for me.

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                                        @MajorRage said in Americas cup:

                                        Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                                        Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                                        Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                                        Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                                        I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                                        Bit of a no brainer for me.

                                        some challengers also said they wouldnt come back to NZ, more expensive to get to/set up base and they could get more/better sponsors if held in a European city

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