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  • MajorPomM MajorPom

    Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

    Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

    Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

    Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

    I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

    Bit of a no brainer for me.

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    LatsToTheMax
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    @MajorRage said in Americas cup:

    Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

    Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

    Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

    Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

    I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

    Bit of a no brainer for me.

    Valencia was through necessity because the America's Cup must be a held on an ocean sea course. San Fran was because the Golden Gate Yacht Club was the defender, Bermuda because its a tax haven, and Auckland because ETNZ won through the RNZYS.

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      Much better racing today, good to see ETNZ come from behind to win, of course, race wins mean nothing for them, just trialing their boat.

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      • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

        Much better racing today, good to see ETNZ come from behind to win, of course, race wins mean nothing for them, just trialing their boat.

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        DaGrubster
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        @LatsToTheMax

        That was outstanding the way they took the lead against Luna Rossa.

        The big problem with these boats seems that whoever gets in front seems to build a big lead and it’s just a procession.

        Hopefully by the time the LV finals start we should see close high quality racing

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

          Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

          Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

          Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

          I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

          Bit of a no brainer for me.

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          nzzp
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          @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

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            @nzzp said in Americas cup:

            @MajorRage remember you're after the seriously wealthy now, not Fern posters. They went back to American yacht clubs every cycle, so why not?

            That’s exactly my point.

            Did the seriously wealthy want to return after 3 years?

            Very different going to diff spots in America than Auckland.

            Just speculating. I have no idea.

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              JK
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              #73

              Bit of an issue here…

              https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/news/717_UPDATED-STATEMENT-FROM-EMIRATES-TEAM-NEW-ZEALAND-.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1x4ybjRFojqqPyLtdUkRUfoObTq-ylt1jevsgYa48ExRbmc_xXOoPNduY_aem_5IOOH3cTqFInbIBziQqFug

              Will miss tomorrow racing as a minimum

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                  I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

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                    @Donsteppa said in Americas cup:

                    I wonder if they'd have dropped the boat in Auckland...

                    Well they dropped the ball so....

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                      Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                      Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                      Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                      I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                      Bit of a no brainer for me.

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      @MajorRage said in Americas cup:

                      Coming in from a point of no education here, but it does make sense to move it around.

                      Yes, they've attracted a lot of money, visitors and teams into NZ, but how mucho f that is going to come back 3 years later? The teams will, obviously, but the flotilla of super yachts / fans etc? Hard to tell. NZ is incredibly difficult to get to & if you were there just 3 years ago, would you be in a hurry to get back there so soon?

                      Kind of like a rugby world cup. If it was held in NZ in 2015 again, would it have been as big of a success as the UK? Or would people be looking at it thinking, long way to go, only went there recently, will skip this.

                      Looking at the last 4, it's' been Valencia, San Fran, Bermuda, Auckland ... what an awesome set of locations and keeps the vibe alive. If it was NZ again, would that same vibe exists with it being in Barcelona this time?

                      I have my doubts. Would you rather pop across to Spain for the next one is do the long journey to NZ, again. For basically exactly the same thing.

                      Bit of a no brainer for me.

                      some challengers also said they wouldnt come back to NZ, more expensive to get to/set up base and they could get more/better sponsors if held in a European city

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                        • JKJ JK

                          Bit of an issue here…

                          https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/news/717_UPDATED-STATEMENT-FROM-EMIRATES-TEAM-NEW-ZEALAND-.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1x4ybjRFojqqPyLtdUkRUfoObTq-ylt1jevsgYa48ExRbmc_xXOoPNduY_aem_5IOOH3cTqFInbIBziQqFug

                          Will miss tomorrow racing as a minimum

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                          LatsToTheMax
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                          @JK said in Americas cup:

                          Bit of an issue here…

                          https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/news/717_UPDATED-STATEMENT-FROM-EMIRATES-TEAM-NEW-ZEALAND-.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1x4ybjRFojqqPyLtdUkRUfoObTq-ylt1jevsgYa48ExRbmc_xXOoPNduY_aem_5IOOH3cTqFInbIBziQqFug

                          Will miss tomorrow racing as a minimum

                          Yeah is a bit shit. They had 9 days of racing the challengers before they had to go it alone. Now maybe down to 5-6. Not ideal.

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                            LatsToTheMax
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                            Well that was a great sailing....

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                              Actually some lead changes and good racing today.

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                                Of the five races, one was good, 3 decided by boats coming off their foils and another was uncontested. Not so good.

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                                  nzzp
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                                  Did I see that team NZ were racing again? Crazy if so

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    Did I see that team NZ were racing again? Crazy if so

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                                    @nzzp said in Americas cup:

                                    Did I see that team NZ were racing again? Crazy if so

                                    I did see a headline to say the boat was back in the water sailing, not sure if they were racing

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                                    • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                                      Of the five races, one was good, 3 decided by boats coming off their foils and another was uncontested. Not so good.

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                                      W32
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                                      @LatsToTheMax said in Americas cup:

                                      Of the five races, one was good, 3 decided by boats coming off their foils and another was uncontested. Not so good.

                                      Adds to the intrigue.

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        Did I see that team NZ were racing again? Crazy if so

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                                        @nzzp said in Americas cup:

                                        Did I see that team NZ were racing again? Crazy if so

                                        Back racing. Cleaned up American Magic today.

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                                          #87

                                          Last race today against the US was a proper race (for the most of it anyway). Thats the type of stuff we want to see

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