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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    2025 draft class doesn't look like a great QB group.

    There are only 32 HC jobs in the NFL so every role is appealing. Every vacant role generally has roster problems, although this saints team is probably worse than most.

    Their cap situation has been awful for years but they used various maneuvers to keep pushing out the hits. They've been one of the main reasons you occasionally hear 'the cap is a lie'. The reality is it always comes due.

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      #167

      mmm saints are a mess
      fans are getting real shitty too
      saw belichik being asked about them today, and he just sort of shook his head
      afterwards i thought, jeez he's a roster expert, maybe saints have already chatted him

      i think johnson oc lions may have knocked back a hc position at end of last

      lions are awesome, best right now imo

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        Saints went downhill when they stopped giving the ball to Taysom Hill on every snap in a variety of different positions.

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          i kinda like hill
          i think that type of player can be effective
          probably like to see more running backs who can pass
          rather than QBs who can run
          small but important difference

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          • M mohikamo

            i kinda like hill
            i think that type of player can be effective
            probably like to see more running backs who can pass
            rather than QBs who can run
            small but important difference

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            #170

            @mohikamo said in NFL 2024:

            i kinda like hill
            i think that type of player can be effective

            anything that keeps defences guessing can get you that split second extra time.

            He was fun! Not a great QB, but a real swiss army knife of a player

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              #171

              Yeah I rate him. They probably needed to use him more than they wanted to, given their distinct lack of options in the passing game.

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                Sorry for the Barkley spam but some of the sideline and fan reaction videos have been on the Steph Curry USA v France dagger 3 level

                https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Kq3FuxuJPk4RTpjn/?mibextid=UalRPS

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                • CyclopsC Offline
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                  There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

                  30+ completions
                  300+ passing yards
                  4+ TD passes
                  multiple 40+ yard TD passes
                  no more than 1 INT

                  ...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs the Ravens again yesterday.

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                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                    There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

                    30+ completions
                    300+ passing yards
                    4+ TD passes
                    multiple 40+ yard TD passes
                    no more than 1 INT

                    ...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs the Ravens again yesterday.

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                    @Cyclops cracking game. The Bengals are the best 4-6 team I've seen I think.

                    They finish with the Steelers twice, chargers Browns titans and Broncos. Could potentially go on a tear to get to the playoffs

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                      #175

                      god fucking DAMMIT. we had it, it was right there, we had beaten the Chiefs, at their house. The streak was over. The Broncos had arrived. And bang, a blocked field goal and those bastards escape again.

                      Football in New York is cooked. The Jets re the Jets, and right now teh Cardinals are giving them a beat down. The Giants lost to the Panthers. It is not going well.
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                      The Patriots beat Chicago. Ouch.
                      I ma pretty sure the Jags coach is about to get fired.
                      The Cowboys stink.
                      Dead cat bounce for the Saints.

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                        #176

                        Yeah that was a brutal beat. Bo Nix starting to look decent.

                        Cardinals starting to look really good.

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                          Showing how much good coaching can make a difference, the Chargers are quietly very good this year.

                          Just cutting out dumb mistakes, improving special teams and having an ounce of injury luck and now they are 6-3.

                          Payton having much the same impact in Denver. They aren't stacked with talent but they don't make dumb mistakes that hand their opposition the game.

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                            god fucking DAMMIT. we had it, it was right there, we had beaten the Chiefs, at their house. The streak was over. The Broncos had arrived. And bang, a blocked field goal and those bastards escape again.

                            Football in New York is cooked. The Jets re the Jets, and right now teh Cardinals are giving them a beat down. The Giants lost to the Panthers. It is not going well.
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                            The Patriots beat Chicago. Ouch.
                            I ma pretty sure the Jags coach is about to get fired.
                            The Cowboys stink.
                            Dead cat bounce for the Saints.

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                            @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                            god fucking DAMMIT. we had it, it was right there, we had beaten the Chiefs, at their house. The streak was over. The Broncos had arrived. And bang, a blocked field goal and those bastards escape again.

                            that was heartbreak hotel time. How often does that get blocked - 1 in 200?

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                              https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1856792632879673843

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                                In addition to the Jets, I really do enjoy watching the Cowboys fail. Jerry Jones is right with Rodgers as one of the most contemptable people in sport.

                                The stadium that blinds its own receivers with the sun is just so perfect. It's everything about Jerry all wrapped up in one. Stupidity to build it like that in the first place. Obstinance to not have it (easily) fixed. The sincere belief he's playing 4D chess and the media are all just jealous of his success.

                                I mean the bloke is Joe Biden's age and still running an NFL team. They traded a 4th rounder for a Panthers receiver who can't get on the field, while guys like Mike Williams and DeAndre Hopkins go for 6th or 7th rounders.

                                I wish them nothing but endless failure, and with Jerry at the helm I know that's what I will get.

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                                  mariner4life
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                                  Haven't even won a conference title in 30 years. Irrelevant but still too often spoken about. The Carlton of the NFL

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                                    Carlton don't have a Jerry Jones, though. Nobody does in AFL, or any of our sports. Kennett and Eddie were loudmouth spokespeople but they weren't making trades or anything.

                                    It's just so American.

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                                      Jerry is interesting because he's put himself in charge of everything.

                                      Every other team spreads the blame. The owners are too cheap. The GM is an idiot.

                                      The Cowboys just have Jerry. And he's not shy in speaking publicly. Some of his public utterances this year have been hilariously stupid. GMs get fired all the time for the moves Jerry makes. They are going nowhere while he owns the team.

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                                        The shame of it is they have enough talent to compete. Dak isn't Mahomes but he's functional. Their defence has some genuine studs.

                                        But of course their owner/GM is an 83 year old with a monkey brain. It's a wonder they even get on the field.

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                                          The shame of it is they have enough talent to compete. Dak isn't Mahomes but he's functional. Their defence has some genuine studs.

                                          But of course their owner/GM is an 83 year old with a monkey brain. It's a wonder they even get on the field.

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                                          @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                                          he's functional.

                                          absolutely damning appraisal of the highest paid guy in the league.

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