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Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series

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  • frugbyF frugby

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

    So, overs unders for getting bowled out in teh 4th innings is about 160. I dno't think we want to chase more than 200.

    https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;innings_number=4;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

    I'd have agreed before the test match, but honestly their spin attack was rubbish yesterday. Yes we batted well, but that would be the worst test bowling from Asian spinners at home v NZ I could remember for a long time.

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    @frugby said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

    So, overs unders for getting bowled out in teh 4th innings is about 160. I dno't think we want to chase more than 200.

    https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;innings_number=4;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

    I'd have agreed before the test match, but honestly their spin attack was rubbish yesterday. Yes we batted well, but that would be the worst test bowling from Asian spinners at home v NZ I could remember for a long time.

    4th innings though ... you just throw it up and see what happens. It's really really hard to bat.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @frugby said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      So, overs unders for getting bowled out in teh 4th innings is about 160. I dno't think we want to chase more than 200.

      https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;innings_number=4;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

      I'd have agreed before the test match, but honestly their spin attack was rubbish yesterday. Yes we batted well, but that would be the worst test bowling from Asian spinners at home v NZ I could remember for a long time.

      4th innings though ... you just throw it up and see what happens. It's really really hard to bat.

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      @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      @frugby said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      So, overs unders for getting bowled out in teh 4th innings is about 160. I dno't think we want to chase more than 200.

      https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;innings_number=4;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

      I'd have agreed before the test match, but honestly their spin attack was rubbish yesterday. Yes we batted well, but that would be the worst test bowling from Asian spinners at home v NZ I could remember for a long time.

      4th innings though ... you just throw it up and see what happens. It's really really hard to bat.

      Yeah it is going to take a decent amount of spin on day 5,it will be hard to play straight then.
      We would not want to chase to many.

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        Southee maintaining his average of the last few years does make his selection as captain a bit unfortunate.

        Not sure why we felt the need to have 3 left arm spinners (if we include Ravindra) but I don’t know the make up of the Lankans batting line up well enough to comment whether Bracewell might have been more dangerous than Santner. 2 leftarmers and 2 offies. Of course my dead Grandmother is more dangerous in tests than Mitch. Hopefully he proves me wrong later in the match.

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          Watched quite a bit of this last night. Went to bed just before Kane got out and I had a strong feeling he was about to.

          He'd started great - 36 runs off 36 balls and then he just got becalmed, while Ravindra was scoring freely.

          Kane's remaining 19 runs came off 68 balls..

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            Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

            I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

              @frugby said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

              @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

              So, overs unders for getting bowled out in teh 4th innings is about 160. I dno't think we want to chase more than 200.

              https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;innings_number=4;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

              I'd have agreed before the test match, but honestly their spin attack was rubbish yesterday. Yes we batted well, but that would be the worst test bowling from Asian spinners at home v NZ I could remember for a long time.

              4th innings though ... you just throw it up and see what happens. It's really really hard to bat.

              Yeah it is going to take a decent amount of spin on day 5,it will be hard to play straight then.
              We would not want to chase to many.

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              @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

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                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

                DRS is such a great contribution to the game. It has done exactly what it's meant to and effectively eliminate the howler.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                  I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

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                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                  Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                  I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

                  Gough was terrible, made another howler too. Have come to really like the review system.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                    Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                    I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

                    DRS is such a great contribution to the game. It has done exactly what it's meant to and effectively eliminate the howler.

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                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                    Ravindra given out lbw when the ball came off the middle of the bat was quite amusing.

                    I'm reviewing - have you seen me umpire - I'm reviewing.....

                    DRS is such a great contribution to the game. It has done exactly what it's meant to and effectively eliminate the howler.

                    Snap.

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      Southee maintaining his average of the last few years does make his selection as captain a bit unfortunate.

                      Not sure why we felt the need to have 3 left arm spinners (if we include Ravindra) but I don’t know the make up of the Lankans batting line up well enough to comment whether Bracewell might have been more dangerous than Santner. 2 leftarmers and 2 offies. Of course my dead Grandmother is more dangerous in tests than Mitch. Hopefully he proves me wrong later in the match.

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                      @Snowy said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                      Southee maintaining his average of the last few years does make his selection as captain a bit unfortunate.

                      Not sure why we felt the need to have 3 left arm spinners (if we include Ravindra) but I don’t know the make up of the Lankans batting line up well enough to comment whether Bracewell might have been more dangerous than Santner. 2 leftarmers and 2 offies. Of course my dead Grandmother is more dangerous in tests than Mitch. Hopefully he proves me wrong later in the match.

                      Philips freakish ability to bowl brilliantly for a non frontline spinner should put Santner and Bracewell on notice.

                      Those two are the very definition of ‘part’ rounders. Phillips looks to be a much better batsman, not to mention bowler currently

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Snowy said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                        Southee maintaining his average of the last few years does make his selection as captain a bit unfortunate.

                        Not sure why we felt the need to have 3 left arm spinners (if we include Ravindra) but I don’t know the make up of the Lankans batting line up well enough to comment whether Bracewell might have been more dangerous than Santner. 2 leftarmers and 2 offies. Of course my dead Grandmother is more dangerous in tests than Mitch. Hopefully he proves me wrong later in the match.

                        Philips freakish ability to bowl brilliantly for a non frontline spinner should put Santner and Bracewell on notice.

                        Those two are the very definition of ‘part’ rounders. Phillips looks to be a much better batsman, not to mention bowler currently

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                        @MN5 I know he’s only had 7 tests but Phillips averages would suggest a bowling all rounder rather than batting. Aves 17 and 33 respectively.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @MN5 I know he’s only had 7 tests but Phillips averages would suggest a bowling all rounder rather than batting. Aves 17 and 33 respectively.

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                          @Snowy said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                          @MN5 I know he’s only had 7 tests but Phillips averages would suggest a bowling all rounder rather than batting. Aves 17 and 33 respectively.

                          First class stats would suggest otherwise but we’ll see. That bowling average won’t stay like that at test level !

                          Maybe he needs to leapfrog Blundell and bat six ?

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                            @Snowy said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @MN5 I know he’s only had 7 tests but Phillips averages would suggest a bowling all rounder rather than batting. Aves 17 and 33 respectively.

                            First class stats would suggest otherwise but we’ll see. That bowling average won’t stay like that at test level !

                            Maybe he needs to leapfrog Blundell and bat six ?

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                            @MN5 can only hope it does stay that way, but yes tiny sample size. Blundell still close to 40 ave I think so probably correct order at the moment. Certainly promote Phillips if quick runs needed. Blundell better higher up if new ball due I would think, so good to have both options.

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                              Just checked Blundell ave 36, so not much in it other than strike rate (50 v 72).

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

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                                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

                                Yes bat to a lead of 150 plus.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                  @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

                                  Yes bat to a lead of 150 plus.

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                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                  @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

                                  Yes bat to a lead of $150 plus.

                                  is that the odds you give us in achieving that?

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                                  • SnowyS Snowy

                                    Just checked Blundell ave 36, so not much in it other than strike rate (50 v 72).

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                                    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                    Just checked Blundell ave 36, so not much in it other than strike rate (50 v 72).

                                    Started well but his form fell off a cliff.

                                    See also Conway, Devon

                                    Jury still out on Rachin Ravindra

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                                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                      @MN5 you've already been warned once. STFU with your positivity and optimism. 😠

                                      This is the fucking Black Caps we're talking about.

                                      Amateur.

                                      A more appropriate post at the end of play when NZ are involved is. "We are fucking doomed. We are only 570 in front with nine wickets in hand and we will be batting last against Kenya. We have no fucking chance".

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                                      @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                      @MN5 you've already been warned once. STFU with your positivity and optimism. 😠

                                      This is the fucking Black Caps we're talking about.

                                      Amateur.

                                      A more appropriate post at the end of play when NZ are involved is. "We are fucking doomed. We are only 570 in front with nine wickets in hand and we will be batting last against Kenya. We have no fucking chance".

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

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                                        @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                        @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

                                        We are the Black Craps and we are more than capable of shitting the bed from here

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                          @Chris Yep - the time to win this game is right now!

                                          We are the Black Craps and we are more than capable of shitting the bed from here

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                                          @canefan and when they do I'll be getting the tar and feathers out for @MN5

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